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to be irritated by the premise of "French Children don't Throw Food"

127 replies

OhdearNigel · 25/11/2011 10:54

Was in the local children's bookshop and the owner had a proof copy of this
www.amazon.co.uk/French-Children-Dont-Throw-Food/dp/0385617615/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1322218169&sr=1-1
sent to her.

I freely admit that I haven't read any of it but I am irritated by it already. France is not some bloody paragon of sophistication and wonder. I have seen plenty of very badly behaved French children. I love France but the woman are not all Coco Chanel, gourmet, sexy glamourpusses. In fact walk down any street in France and you are unlikely to see such a creature.
My best friend in childhood was French and the most exotic dinner her Mum made was chopped cheese and pepper mixed with salad cream and then grilled on toast. Hardly the Ritz.

OP posts:
garlicnutter · 25/11/2011 15:56

oops, definitely not

grovel · 25/11/2011 15:59

The Americans I've travelled with on business generally tried to avoid Paris so I'm intrigued by dreaming's post.

Disclaimer: the Americans in question generally worked for Texas-based companies. Nuff said.

giveitago · 25/11/2011 16:45

I've never seen any child throw food.

babybythesea · 25/11/2011 16:57

nulgirl: In my experience of living in small town France, the reason that French children behave better is because their parents are much stricter. All my French friends smack their children even in public. They are expected to behave in restaurants and not interrupt when adults talk. This does mean that they can behave like little horrors when their parents are not around.

Also French schools are much stricter too and bad behaviour is not tolerated.

Grin This is in direct contrast to my experience of French school kids, I posted on p3 of this thread. I worked somewhere where we had a lot of them come through and they, on the whole, were an absolute b**y nightmare. While the teachers sat in the cafe and drank coffee and did nothing, the students rampaged around the site, and staff chased round after them, while sending radio messgaes to each other to keep an eye out because there's yet another bunch of French hooligans in! Compared to the English kids who were usually read the riot act about representing the school, and from whom (the one time I did have to follow it up with the school and make a complaint after some grafitti was discovered) I received three grovelling letters apologising and explaining how they'd let themselves, the school, their parents, the entire kingdom, down by their behaviour. Never got much from the French staff beyond a shrug...

northernwreck · 25/11/2011 16:58

French culture is way more conservative. Girls dont go out to bars with other girls-only in mixed groups with their boyfriends.
I got told off in Paris for dancing too suggestively. "Mon Dieu! You are not in London now!"
Wink

DeliaSucksStuffingBalls · 25/11/2011 16:58

My 2 year old is pretty adept at throwing petit pois.

northernwreck · 25/11/2011 17:02

I have to say though, for all their stick up the arse, bad hair, corporal punishment-ness, I am so with them on the " children mustn't interrupt adults when they are talking" If only some of my friends were French in that regard..

NormanTebbit · 25/11/2011 17:04

My French SIL was still cooking mush for DD aged 2! As a treat she would cook tiny pasta with no salt, mix it with milk then grate broccoli over the top.

My French cousins used to lust after tomato ketchup, white sliced bread and burger king.

shaketheshame · 25/11/2011 17:17

Are any of you even French ?

DeliaSucksStuffingBalls · 25/11/2011 17:24

Mais qui. J'ai m'appelle Madame Delia et j'adore les stuffing balls dans ma bouche. Mes infants j'adore jettent petit pois.

NormanTebbit · 25/11/2011 17:44

I am going to write a book called: 'Why French women are uptight and have no sense of humour.'

Ps

It's because they are always hungry

shaketheshame · 25/11/2011 17:46

In France, our children are well fed and taste various stuff. Bad behaviour is not tolerated and children owe to respect their parents. Also, you'll never see french kids going to their local chippy for their mid-afternoon snack and eat in the street. They look like savages with their chips in one hand and fizzy drinks in the other. English kids are rude, I often see them in my local shop, they don't say hello, please, thank you, good bye..they talk like shit to the shop keeper.

shaketheshame · 25/11/2011 17:47

I have got a very good sense of humour but I'm not sure you'll get it Smile

dreamingbohemian · 25/11/2011 17:47

Yes I think the Americans and the French take the P out of each other constantly, but since moving here I'm really struck by how alike we are.

I mean, most obviously there's the arrogance Grin and the absolute conviction that one's own culture has everything you need. The reputation for rudeness abroad.

But there's also the gabbiness, for lack of a better word, the outpouring of small talk all the time, the willingness to tell complete strangers your life story. People are very direct, they will tell you what they think even if it's kind of rude.

I think there's similar attitudes toward health care, doctors give out pills more often, things like maternity are more medicalised, basically we're much more demanding of our doctors.

I think we're both more obsessed with food and restaurants. We tend to have bars, not pubs.

I should probably qualify by saying I'm east coast american, I lived in London, now I live in NW France -- so might think differently if I'd lived up north for example. But so far France reminds me much more of home than London did, which is weird.

OrmIrian · 25/11/2011 17:48

It could be called 'French children don't bloody smile. Ever!' Judging by the pouty sour faces that arrive in the town around exchange time.

WhatFreshHellIsThis · 25/11/2011 17:51

Surely this must have been written by our friend BA?

NormanTebbit · 25/11/2011 17:54

Bonspir will love this thread

northernwreck · 25/11/2011 18:05

Who mentioned chips? I could just fancy some chips.

daytoday · 25/11/2011 18:38

Loving this thread.

New Research exposes local chippy as source of summer riots. Ran out of ketchup unleashing torrent of heathen agro. Some French students sat nearby and escaped harm by throwing chips at yobs.

winnybella · 25/11/2011 18:49

shaketheshame I'm afraid that I see a mountain of trash left strewn on the ground after the local kids have had their McDo for lunch in our park. So not only do they eat McDo and drink Coke, they also just drop their trash wherever they are sitting. That's in Paris. Drives me nuts.

TheScaryJessie · 25/11/2011 18:54

I'm confused. What's special about French children, then? English children don't throw food beyond 1 or 2 years, either. Is that so bad by French standards?

BleurghUna · 25/11/2011 18:58

Grin fastweb

aliciaflorrick · 25/11/2011 19:08

Orm I once posted my son's class photo on my FB page with the heading "French children don't smile". Not one single child (even my own) was smiling - cost my 5 euros that picture.

difficulttimes · 25/11/2011 19:10

I know someone who lived temp. in france and hated it everyone up there own arse apparently,

winnybella · 25/11/2011 19:24

Jessie- I spent a week at my daughter's creche a couple of months ago. Her group comprises of children 1.5-2.5 yo. For lunch, kids serve themselves out of a big dish and then sit down a the table and eat quietly, using cutlery correctly.