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To think Loreale need to the issues with their hair dye - warning to you all to do a skin test!

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AngryFeet · 20/11/2011 20:54

Just read this

My hairdresser uses Loreale and told me they had changed the ingredients recently. I have never been allergic to anything in my life and have dyed my hair several times but when he did a skin test (thank god he did) the skin went red and started peeling off in hours. He said a couple of other clients who had been fine with the dye before had a reaction in the last few months.

Since then I have been super sensitive to shampoo to the point I get red sores down my hairline and my scalp bleeds and is covered in flaky itchy skin (the skin test was 5 months ago).

Anyone else used this and had problems? I am going to write to Loreale but I thought this post might serve as a warning. Please do a 48 hour skin test!

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slightlycrinkled · 21/11/2011 11:27

Thank you Ticktock; that's v. useful info.

So, if I have this right, if you have to do a patch test 48 hrs before every single home dyeing session, then surely it should be incombent on L'Oreal and other dye manufacturers to provide inexpensive patch test kits with every packet of dye they sell?

Otherwise the consumer ends up having to buy two packets every time they home-dye their hair (and no one is realistically going to do that, are they?)

moonmother · 21/11/2011 11:27

Please Please if you ever dye your hair, using L'oreal or any dye please do a skin test everytime you dye your hair but leave it 3-4 days before dying your hair.

I started getting allergic reaction to hair dyes 3 years ago, I've always done skin tests and have found the cheaper dyes (aldi/poundland) are the only ones I can use as they seem to use less of the PPD's. Even they now are starting to give me reactions. Sad

3 weeks ago I used a Wilkinsons own brand( cheap and have used before) and did a skin test. 48 hours afterwards I had no reaction, so dyed my hair, 12-24 hours after I used the dyeon my hair, my skin test flared up.

My scalp/ears/neck flared up 4 days after I applied the dye to my hair, this was despite washing my hair daily and using antihistamines. Luckily with the cheap dyes I 'only' get blisters and irritation on my scalp.

3 weeks later my scalp is only just clear of itchy weepy blisters and the skin on the backs of my ears have stopped peeling even though they are still itchy.

I honestly think if I used a more expensive brand I too would end up hospitalised.

The most important thing is leaving the skin test longer -all the women have done the skin tests and had no reaction so dyed their hair, and have gone on to either lose their lives or be extremely ill.

Please leave the skin tests longer before applying the dye

slightlycrinkled · 21/11/2011 11:29

Or if you don't have to do it every single time, how regularly should you do it?

And if you only, let's say, do a patch test every six months, and you get a reaction in between tests, are you covered if something goes wrong?

slightlycrinkled · 21/11/2011 11:30

xposts moonmother

that's scary - thanks for the warning though!

PattySimcox · 21/11/2011 11:36

Re the skin / allergy test.

On the instructions it says to mix small equal amounts of the product - I use calpol spoons to get 5ml of each and mix them in a plastic bowl and then put it on my skin.

So you don't have to buy two packs and throw one away.

I never used to bother until a friend had a very bad reaction

justhavintheone · 21/11/2011 11:48

i use the clairol loving care as im allergic to ppd, it works quite well you just have to leave it on a good while, and it washes out so need to do it quite frequently, better than gray hair though!

slightlycrinkled · 21/11/2011 11:53

oh thanks Patty I get it now!

Might have a look at Loving Care ...but I wash my hair most days so it will be a bit of a faddle to have to use dye more frequently ...

AngryFeet · 21/11/2011 12:15

I wish I hadn't put this is AIBU now as I am trying to get across a serious message here and not start a row.

Anyway I have dyed my hair using L'Oreal (through my mobile hairdresser) for many years but as highlights. The only time I have put dark colour on my scalp is when I was 17. I had my highlights done in May and the colour went strangely yellow (even though they were my normal colours) so I decided to go back to my natural very dark blonde. He was using a light brown colour when he did the skin test which reacted.

It is still likely that I have become allergic to PPD as firstly you can become allergic to something at anytime in life. Looking at it now maybe the change in L'Oreals product is not the problem here (unless they have increased the level of PPD in their product).

The problem is so many are or become allergic to PPD (and it is in all permanent hair dye in the UK). It is banned in most of Europe as so many have become allergic to it and suffered bad reactions.

www.virtualhaircare.com/virtual%20salon/salon%20services/colour_allergies.html

Why I now have contact dermatitus I don't know but clearly it has made my scalp sensitive now. It can't be a coincidence that this happened at the same time.

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StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes · 21/11/2011 16:41

weird, I too used to love the 10 minute one, left my hair lovely colour and shiney and soft never did tests (silly) then one time I had a reaction that left me with itchy scalp, weeping patches on forehead which lasted ages. wont dare use it again but since then several other brands bring me out a little sore and itchy. can anyone tell me does Henna cover grey?

WynkenBlynken · 21/11/2011 18:44

I don't normally post but I just saw on sky news a lady is in a coma after a severe reaction to using a L'Oreal home hair dye. Poor lady and poor family.

FabbyChic · 21/11/2011 18:49

The fault likes with your hairdresser for not doing a strand test. Sorry it does, all hair dyes recommend a strand/patch test first.

FabbyChic · 21/11/2011 18:49

likes = lies

AngryFeet · 21/11/2011 19:02

Read the thread fabby - my reaction was from a patch test. I never used the stuff on my scalp as the patch test was too dodgy. Some people are having reactions just from the stuff touching their skin.

If you look on the internet people are having similar problems from the fake tattoos you can get done on the street - the black ones all have PPD in them.

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AngryFeet · 21/11/2011 19:03

Yes henna does stepaway and it comes in different shades - not light shades though.

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DeeScent · 21/11/2011 19:18

Thanks for this thread AngryFeet - I'll now do some research before I use my regular dye. Going to find out if it has that chemical and if so find an alternative. Hope you skin reverts to normal soon.

DartsAgain · 21/11/2011 19:24

I understand that PPD accumulates in the skin, which is why you can happily dye your hair for years and then suddenly have a problem. I'm very white at the front/top of my head but still quite dark at that back, which I think looks awful. I'm still dyeing my hair, but will leave longer to see if patch test shows anything.

RetroMuff · 21/11/2011 19:41

Thank you Angryfeet for starting this thread.

I've coloured my hair for years without any problems and have never done a patch test. I'm going to make sure I do now though.

I used to have my hair coloured at my hairdressers (too expensive now) who only do a patch test once.

SparklyCloud · 21/11/2011 19:52

Loreal owned by Proctor & Gamble, THE biggeast bunch of animal torturers on this earth. They order more animal testing than any other company, so they can get new face creams, 'better' shampoos etc. Do a Google search for 'Hurtful Essences' and see what they are up to. I HATE them.
As well as loreal they also own other brands of household and cosmetic stuff like Cif, Ariel, Bold, Gilette, Head and Shoulders, Olay, Max factor...the list is endless.

I avoid every single thing they have anything to do with.

spanish · 21/11/2011 19:55

I think this is really worrying. I had a bad reaction to a hair colour last week, after dying my hair for about 25 years with no problems. While the hairdresser was still applying the colour, I began to feel burning on my scalp, my face was tingling and feeling like it was losing sensation, my heart was beating like crazy. I got the hairdresser to wash it off immediately and I had to get them to run cold water over my scalp continuously for about 30 mins. I felt like I was going to pass out. It did go through my mind that another woman has died recently after reacting to a hair dye. I feel to scared to have another colour.

Glitterandglue · 21/11/2011 19:57

Ohh, I think I get the misunderstanding at the beginning. I think by your thread title you meant that L'Oreal should deal with the issues with their new ingredients and that YOU are warning everyone to do a skin test, yeah? It reads like you are saying that L'Oreal should deal with the issues by telling everyone to do a skin test (which they already do).

AngryFeet · 21/11/2011 20:01

Yeah sorry my OP was shite as was my title Blush

People need to do a skin test 48-72 hours prior to having the dye applied. And if possible avoid this stuff entirely. I have just found a local salon who use PPD free dye. Am going to see dermatologist first to check what I am actually allergic to.

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MmeLindor. · 21/11/2011 20:25

Oh, scary stuff. Will ask my hairdresser before dying my hair again. I normally just have highlights though.

MmeLindor. · 21/11/2011 20:26

AngryFeet
Maybe contact MN and ask them to alter the OP and title?

TattyDevine · 21/11/2011 20:37

Sorry but I don't understand how you could have a patch test behind your ear and then suddenly have problems on your scalp?

I'd be very careful here really as you are making some fairly bold claims mentioning a manufacturer yet there is no real evidence that the manufacturer caused these problems. You didn't even use the product on your scalp.

You don't want them to get the litigators in. You don't really know it was anything to do with Loreal?

bruffin · 21/11/2011 22:15

Tatty
I think what happened to op is that reaction to the patch test then set off sensitivity to other products ie shampoo which goes all over the scalp