Why cant people give to CIN like they do for Comic Relief?

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AIBU to think that Charity should begin at home?

Now i think its great that people give to 3rd world countries and this years total of Comic Relief in March by the end of the night was £74Million,, and the end total was £102Million.

But Children In Need total at end of the night was £26Million...not that much in comparison really is it?

AIBU to think its awful that people would rather give to other countries than to their own?

Some of those stories on tonights show were bloody heartbreaking to say the least, i was in tears at Elliots story :(
It does makes you grateful for what you have, and more charities need more help moneywise to help disabled children and families, but yet CIN do not ever get as much as Comic Relief? Why?

I hate the way CIN emphasises every 5 minutes that all the money goes to charities in the UK.
As if that way they will encourage more people to give money.
I give to charities that seem to be in the most need, and they are usually in 3rd world countries.

Agree ladybeagleeyes, those announcements actually put me off. I want my money to go to where the need is greatest.

But presumably it works for some people, which is why they keep saying it.

wonderstuff thanks so much for that John Lewis info x

I absolutely agree that the services provided are so so so important to their users (and to the wider community and therefore for the good of the whole community). I'm trying not to bury my head in the sand - very much aware of the need for them. trying not to be bitter about the fact our government (still one of the most developed countries in the world) can't get it's act together to help more, and i know we need to help fill that gap.

It was the way in which CiN was done that just made me feel a bit cynical, i felt like my emotions were being manipulted to MAKE me donate, and i usually donate because i feel like i really WANT to.

I will have to find another way to salve my conscious this year

I bet those that give the most to CiN are probably those than can least afford to do so too. Those on benefits and low incomes always seem to dig very deep. It makes me ashamed on behalf of Mr Wogan that he takes a fee.

Very much against the sheer hypocrisy of geeing up everyone else to donate when someone who is proably in the top 5-10% of earners still takes a cut.

I don't know how Wogan can charge a fee. He clearly doesn't need the money and it's not just expenses (I could understand paying him to get there and back), it's a fee. I know he got very defensive when it was brought up, but he still charges it.

Didnt know the presenters got paid - not good

I know Wogan does, not sure about the others.

Only Wogan gets paid, comes out of BBC budget and doesn't affect monies raised by CiN - Not a massive deal then really..
Daily Fail?

it is correct Sir Tel WAS paid by the BBC but hasn't been for years and no one else has ever been paid, so a non arguement.

I don't know if Wogan is paid or not - personally I find it hard to believe that he would take the money after all the fuss.

But unless people are absolutely certain of the facts, they should keep their traps shut. Rumours like this can be immensely damaging to charity appeals, and that isn't fair if it's not even true.

Idrather, you sound really quite ignorant. Charity begins at home is so meaningless. There are people in the developing world who have literally nothing. There is no welfare state to prop them up, nothing. Are you unable to empathise with them and want to support them simply because they speak a different language or look different to you?

Also, 'but also how are we responsible for Africa being fucked?'

I believe we have a moral responsibility to other human beings, what a horrid, sad, selfish attitude. It's British companies who go in and rape these countries of their goods without paying a penny of tax, goods that we then buy. We are all complicit.

Maybe because the people we see benefiting from CIN are absolutely deserving but are not likely to be in imminent danger without the money. CR tends to focus on children dying of starvation and preventable disease. If I had a pound to spare and the choice of supporting a youth club in the UK or paying for an emergency food pack for a child in an African country, I'd go with CR.

Sir Tezza was paid, as part of his overall contract with the BBC but is now not. He did not get paid specifically for CIN, IIRC, but because it was part of his contract, it was included in the breakdown of his salary I think.

lots of people do give to CIN and do give to both. You can't do a hierarchy of good causes, ffs! You can choose where you give your money but to suggest there's some inherent logic that everyone should obey is just daft.

Hospices, youth centres and services for disabled children are at risk in this country thanks to swingeing cuts in local authority funding - cuts the government quite deliberately made especially savage up front, in a cynical attempt to make it look all better by the time of the next election. Had they phased the cuts in, services would have been able to adjust to some extent, they might have been able to find additional sources of funding. But that is not important to the government.

"charity begins at home" is one of the most ignorant, stupid, arrogant, lazy things anyone can possibly say. There was a story on CR this year about a young girl (maybe 6?) whose mother had HIV, there was a possibility she had it too and her mother was so ill she had to look after her little sister. It showed her saying that sometimes her whole body was so painful through hunger she could hardly move but she had to carry on. Then her mother died. I cant even begin to imagine what that poor little girl had to go through every single day. Or the doctors in a hospital having to decide which child was going to die so they could use the equipment on another child.

A few youth centres being closed down or cuts being made to childrens services in this country don't come anywhere close to this level of need. So no, I don't give money to CiN I save it for more worthy causes.

I think it's unfair to say that the causes cin give to aren't worthy. They help people who are suffering to, and someone suffering be it here or in another country deserves help.

There are different levels of suffering. Like someone else said CIN is life enhancing, CR is life saving.

Agree that 'charity begins at home' is bollocks. It really seems to have lost its original meaning (as I understood it, anyway - that it's hypocritical to be a great philanthropist if you treat your nearest and dearest badly), and just become thinly veiled racism. By all means donate to UK charities if they mean a lot to you - but to grudge money going instead to countries where it really does mean the difference between life and death is just plain nasty.

I agree ItWas, CIN keeps pushing the fact that they're giving to good old British causes, none of those undeserving forriners are getting a share.

I didnt donate this year. The special needs group that Wilf goes to has applied twice to CIN and been turned down both times!! That has made me a bit cross.