To not donate to CIN

[JarethTheGoblinKing]

..because I strongly disagree that anything that requests donations should be covered by our wonderful NHS.

We shouldnt need Cancer charities, we shouldn't need children's charities. We're one of the moe developed countries in the world. Why should we have to appeal to anybody to get children fed and looked after.

I donate and encourage my DC to get involved with fundraising. I couldn't not give based on the off chance that my money didn't actually reach someone. Because the thought of "if it does go where it is needed and helps someone" then that is enough for me.

And yes, it isn't right that children go hungry, or don't have services and equipment that enriches their lives, or basic clean clothes so I will do my bit to help. And I'm mighty glad so many other people do too.

Posie I agree, personally I would never have anything for myself if my kids needed something first and most parents would go without to ensure their children had what they needed.

But CIN or any other charity providing for these children doesn't make that much difference to the parents attitudes as without the help the children would still go without. If that makes any sense?

ChristinedePizanne- absolutely agree with that. That whole segment about the club which provides breakfast really irritated me.

It was clear the support they offered those children made a real difference, the breakfast being just a part of that but i felt the way it was presented ( by zoe ball?) was as though they felt anything other than 'these poor children live in poverty and would go without food without this charity' was silly, as though they felt acknowledging the more complex reasons why these kids might not get breakfast at home, would be tmi for the viewers.

Badly handled imo.

there shouldnt be childrens charities EVER but they are needed i think its shocking but its how it is , I think when somebody mentioned the breakfast club , its terrible that children need to go , but some parents live so chaotic lives that the children suffer i know its not right , but these clubs offer a litte stability for these kids , also the other projects like a PP mentioned about music therapy and things like that is so beneficial to children and their conditions , the results are amazing , I am a huge CIN supporter i think we all should be ,

Absolutely JV - I turned it off at that point because it just totally failed to explain the complexities in the situation and just really undermined the work that the group do.

Sadly that does mean that I missed Gok Wan's turn :o

Luckily it also meant you missed Steps.

I fully support ČIN and always donate. It may be that we can blame someone, but it's the children that suffer and I'd rather save my moral argument until after I've donated and helped. Young carers a lways make me furious when they're born into families where it is known they will have to care....but I would still like them to have respite.

Posie i agree with you about young carers I have a disability and would hate if my children had to care for me , but sometimes the parents can see no other option if they have become ill and dont know where to look for help iyswim ,

Fabby, what's your problem with the money going to other countries? Surely you can't mind donations going to children in other countries who have nothing? So narrow minded and Daily Mail reader to want your money to stay in the UK.

Phew!

We give to CIN and CRelief, a few hundred to each every year. We give a considerable amount more than that to a charity of our choice annually too.

Personally, I think charity is duty. There but for the grace of whatever deity .

Posies Nevermind the cost of the fags....what about the absolutely mahooosive flat screen telly!!!!

Whoever is supposed to pay for it... they don't. So donations are needed! It's not the kids fault that the government won't stump up, is it?

And I hate that attitude that you don't want to give anything if some of it goes abroad (it doesn't, by the way) - someone in need is in need wherever the live, ffs

If you don't want to give to charity, then that's your choice.

I kind of think the TV thing is part of the low education, no money and so it's the only thing they can do. I imagine that Father had skewed priorities and possibly got everything from places like Brighthouse.

The TV was worked by pound coins.

I ranted up thread about the breakfast club segment. The reason I ranted was that there was children on the waiting list. There should be some money that places like that can get so that there is no waiting list.

And the x box, and the pc - they all have to be paid for somehow.

I'm not saying don't have a tv - but surely buying one that massive is just ridiculous for most people, let alone when you have little or no money. To think that child was wearing his sisters clothes as they had no money, was just crazy. "I might wear a girls shirt and it makes me feel really, really crap ...but look at the massive telly we don't need and can't afford" A shirt from Asda must cost a couple of quid.....

I donate to CIN, but found it difficult last night to think I'm giving money to people who waste their money on tv's and entertainment systems bigger than we have, and on things we don't have. I have to budget and can't afford things like that. And we are not 'poor' but still have a monthly budget to work around. Their house was a total pigsty. Costs little to tidy up and whip a duster over.

Kids in hospices, youth centres etc I have no problem dontaing to. Kids abroad too - they're all children in need. Yes the govt should fund it but obviously they don't/can't or cover the basics only. That's the whole point of charity.....

Posies dont get me going on brighthouse or any other crap company like them , they prey on peoples weakneses some folk think that if the children have a huge tv and games console they will be ok , until the burly brighthouse collecter comes knocking on the door , makes my blood boil and i wanted to shout into their shop every time i walk past it in town , ( im being a bit ott about bright house i know )

I sent the girls off with their pounds or whatever yesterday for school but I will not personally be making a donation to CIN for this reason:

Their funding criteria is bonkers.

I will give you an example. I know a group of parents with disabled children who have been trying to get money for a specially adapted play park so their children can join in (things like swings with supportive seats etc). They applied to CIN and the reason they were knocked back was:

We cant fund you because you cant guarantee that no child who doesnt have a disability will ever use the facilities.

Fabulously helpful in terms of inclusion, and also the kids still dont have a facility which would have made a huge difference to them. And thats only one example. I feel like punching Pudsey.

PS sorry for that poorly constructed sentence up their with the triple negaitve, hope it makes sense!