to think Sarkozy has a point?

[Kitchentiles]

Apparent outrage today because he said breastfeeding is a kind of slavery for the woman and let's men off the hook for getting up in the night.

True and true I'd say!

Thanks for pointing out its old, tante. I didn't notice.

People can be, for example, a slave to fashion. I'm sure they have a choice too!

I didn't find bfing to be drudgery. Mr Sarkozy's take on it was far more accurate to my experience.

It's not slavery and it doesn't let men off the hook for getting up in the night. Of course some men may use it as an excuse.

If you're going to try and have a go jellybaby25 at least get my name right

But I'm flattered that you felt the need to resurrect a long dead post to make your point.

Wow, that is flattering- you've obviously made quite an impression, Folkgirl

I know

Just looking through some old threads and came across this one.... Not trying to make a massive point. Maybe you didn't mean it to sound as it actually did, FoLkGirl. I just can't stand smugness around breastfeeding.

If breastfeedings's your issue, there are plenty of current threads, jellybaby

I wasn't being smug. I thought the OP was stupid!

And I did mean it to sound as it did, actually!

The OP was a silly, thoughtless and crass thing to say and deserved the contempt it attracted.

I would suggest that anyone who likened BF to slavery probably hadn't done it because most women who do it do so because they want to and not because they are enslaved .

They probably don't have any understanding of actual slavery either.

If you are having issues around breastfeeding, then tethersend is right, there are a lot of current threads on the issue. And you won't find me being judgemental on any of them.

I BF, DH did/does all housework, half of the nights settlings (because he won't just feed to sleep).

Some use it as a excuse for the men to not do anything, but there are many bottle fed babies where the mother has to do nearly everything as the man 'needs his sleep for work'

@tethersend... This one is about BFing!

I am pretty sure the OP wasn't suggesting the BFing is actually akin to slavery! We all know what she means though.

FolkGirl... your comment initially sounded to me as if you were saying ... "BFing is so wonderful, that the OP couldn't possibly hold the views she does if she had done it." Sorry, but it did sound slightly smug to me, although I now accept that you did not mean it to.

Whatever!

Well I kind of think he has a point but its probably something that would have been better left unsaid.

I really wasn't being smug. I was irritated. I get irritated by the BF/FF threads and the holier than thou attitude espoused by some BFers and the defensive counter arguments put forward by some FFers. Ultimately, we all make the feeding decisions that suit us/we feel is right for our baby.

It's one thing to have a thread which asks questions, seeks support and challenges misconceptions. But one which deliberately sets out to ridicule one approach or the other is only going to end up winding people up.

Oh, as this one has done.

And I don't know what she means. I loved every minute of BF. I didn't find it restrictive, I was fortunate in that it was easy and I was quite sad when it ended. I don't feel it let my DH off. He made me plenty of cups of tea whilst I was doing it! And did the laundry, and the cooking and whatever else.

I have no interest in arguing with anyone on here, and particularly not over something like, BF.

I think the OP was silly to post it. But that's just my opinion.

Breast feeding is slavery. Fomula feeding is evil.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

@FolkGirl ... yep, defo not worth arguing over :-)

"@tethersend... This one is about BFing!"

I know, jelly- my point was that there are SO many BFing threads on here, you could pick one which was less than a year old.

Just a piece of interesting , but useless information..The marmorsette monkey, female only feeds her baby, and then hands it to the dad who does all the looking after, while mum goes back to sleep - yeah1111