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for wanting to thank you all for educating me on P&C parking

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Kladdkaka · 12/11/2011 13:40

Before joining mumsnet I wouldn't have dreamt of parking in a P&C space. I didn't think it was allowed. I used to get frustrated when taking my mum shopping as the P&C spaces are right next to the door at her local Tesco whereas the disabled bays (I have a blue badge) are literally half a carpark away, further than many of the regular spaces. Now I know better and can park accordingly. So thank you very much. My dad says thank you too.

When I was over recently we decided to take my dad out to Morrisons for his lunch. This was a massive deal for him. He is so elderly and frail that he hasn't been out for over 2 years. He can't get into my sister's regular type car as it's too low and he can't get into my brother's people carrier type car as it's too high. My goldilocks car is in the middle and just right. So with 3 helpers, a wheelchair, a zimmer frame, a drag blanket, a swivel pad, 2 skateboards, a pile of bricks, 45 minutes and a mountain of aspie ingenuity and pigheadedness we got him the car.

When we got there, there was only one disabled parking space available. But it was quite narrow and I knew there was not enough space to get him out. I drove around looking for somewhere suitable. I found a P&C space which had double the get out space as it was on the end of the row. 35 minutes later and he was out and scoffing everything in sight in the restaurant. Mother said he ate more in that one meal than they can normally cajole him into eating in a week. He was very, very happy.

So thank you mumsnet for giving me the knowledge to make this happen.

On the downside, after spending a mere 20 minutes getting him back in (we now knew how to do it), I was standing by the open driver's door when I heard a lot of shouting. I ignored it. Shouting continued. I looked over and saw a bloke in a car shouting very aggressively at someone. So being the chicken that I am I kept my head down.

He drove off and parked further up the P&C block, got out, and started shouting again. I could hear clearer now, he was shouting about not parking there if you didn't have a bloody baby in the car. I looked around to see who he was shouting out and realised that everyone else was looking at me. Holy crap, he was shouting at me. I jumped in my car and started to do up the window as he came over still shouting. My heart was racing, I was very frightened.

Then he stopped turned around and went off to the shop with his missus and baby. I'm not sure what stopped him. Did he see the blue badge in the window? Did he notice that I wasn't a lone female who he could easily intimidate, but had 3 other adults in the car? Did he notice the bloody big dog in the back with his head stuck out of the window and hear the other 2 barking like mad too? Or did he spot my foreign number plate and put my ignoring him down to the fact that I was a foreigner who couldn't speak English and realise that any attempts at communication were pointless? :o

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Kladdkaka · 12/11/2011 16:54

He enjoyed the shouty man too. Said it was better than Eastenders. As I said, he doesn't get out anymore. :o

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lifechanger · 12/11/2011 17:02

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KD0706 · 12/11/2011 17:21

I'm pleased your dad had a good time kladdkaka
I find it funny that he thought the shouty man was entertaining. It will have been such a memorable trip out for him. Sad that he's been house bound for so long.
I hope the shouty man's wife gives him a bollicking for acting like such a twonk. I'd be mortified and furious if DH carried on like that.

Your post made me really Sad lifechanger your poor dad. I think so many people lose any common courtesy when they get behind the wheel of a car. Different scenario and 100% less upsetting, but yesterday I was driving, ready to turn left at green traffic lights when I heard a siren and looked to see where it was coming from and it was an ambulance coming down the wrong side of the road, where I was about to turn. So I sat and waited. The guy behind me was tooting at his horn, waving his arms at me and clearly yelling something rude. He could have heard the siren and should in my opinion have put two and two together. Ambulance passed and I drove on, no sign of apology or look of contrition from the arse behind me.

pantspantspants · 12/11/2011 18:09

great story, exactly what P&T bays are for.

I do wish these spaces were renamed wide/accessable bays. Im fed up of seeing little old ladies struggling further down the car park never daring to park in a P&T bay for fear of an angry, self important, toss pot. While perfectly able people use the bays with 3-4 adults in the car and one school age child.

Some people shout no matter what, If you take the space that they wanted that's enough. I once was shouted at for using the P&T space right next to the entrance (the best one) while heavily pregnant,due that day, with DD1 (3.10) and DD2 (2.4). DD2 Has behavioural issues and is very coordinated so walks into things, trips and falls. she also has difficultly in walking safely ( can't walk in a straight line). so its a real treat for her to walk from this bay into the store. Some arse decided to shout because he thought he was there first. As a result DD2 had a meltdown and now refuses to walk from the car at all.

Hannah31 · 12/11/2011 18:28

I've missed a crucial bit of information - what's the clever rule about P&T parking bays? How come OP could use it? (Absolutely glad she could, don't mean anything bad, just think I've missed a rule!)

mousymouse · 12/11/2011 18:44

hannah p&t parking is curtsey of he stores and not legal requirement (like disabled parking) so it cannot be legally enforced. it's just nice to have and makes life easier for people like the op.

gelatinous · 12/11/2011 18:48

I think the point is that parent and child spaces don't have age restrictions, ie the parents and the children might be any age but having a requirement for a wider berth.

I think I was probably pushing the 'rules' a bit when using them with ds (17) when he was learning to drive and not yet able to get the car safely into a narrower space, but in my defence it was at a place/time of day when none of the P&C spaces were being used and we took the furthest one.

I'm glad the OP's dad was able to get out and agree shouty man was a gnob.

youtalkintome · 12/11/2011 18:53

There is a massive thread on my local forum about how pregnant women shouldn't use the P&C spaces because they are for people with babies Hmm I can't believe how many people agree. I haven't posted on it but I'm dying for someone to comment about me using them. I am 37 weeks pregnant and a ball of hormonal anger Grin. I actually couldn't get myself out of the car in a normal space.

SugarPasteZombie · 12/11/2011 19:50

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Hannah31 · 12/11/2011 20:21

Thank you Mouseymouse! That explains a bewildered car park man in the face of my Mum's lengthy rant bout the lack of P&C spaces in said car park.

MrsLevinson · 12/11/2011 20:34

This is a brilliant story Kladdkaka and I'm glad your Dad enjoyed himself.

The only thing that would have made it better for me would be if shouty man had accidentally stepped onto one of your skateboards and ploughed headlong into the pile of bricks, but I'll just have to pretend that really happened. :)

ditzymitzy2 · 12/11/2011 20:39

i just park where its convenient for me, not in a disabled space if i can avoid it obviously, but dont recognise that parents with kids need to park closer :)

PelvicF1oorOfSteel · 12/11/2011 20:46

I've never really seen the point in P&C parking but this sounds like a good use for it. Smile

buggerlugs82 · 12/11/2011 20:50

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auntiepicklebottom2 · 12/11/2011 20:53

Going against the grain, but I really I am talented to have a baby and I deserve those spots. I couldn't possible manage in a normal spot :)

heleninahandcart · 12/11/2011 22:12

Great story. I'm particularly glad your Dad enjoyed Shouty Man Grin.

KickArseQueen · 13/11/2011 00:02

Mrslevinson I just actually LOL'd at the imagery! thankyou! Oh!! If only! :)

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