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AIBU?

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...to ask for another meeting with DS's teacher?

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Baroozer · 09/11/2011 22:01

It was parent-teacher conferences a few days ago. DS is in Yr 3. In every single parent-teacher conference before, I've been told about his work, strengths and weaknesses, a brief bit about how he's behaving, a few anecdotes, etc. Pretty normal stuff. I always make sure I have a few questions to ask about aspects of schoolwork, e.g. which times tables should he be learning, or how he seems socially, but nothing too deep. I have never heard anything worse than that my DS can be perfectionist about some things which makes him worried about trying, but last year his teacher made a point of encouraging him to fail, if that makes sense, and after a term he seemed to be back merrily trying without worrying overly much.
This time, with his new teacher, it was completely different. It was, bluntly, a character assassination. Six minutes of how awful my DS is: he is violent towards other children, he over-reacts all the time, he cries at the slightest thing, he is too polite (!) in group situations. At one point his teacher said, "Quite often when I listen to him I can tell he is the eldest of a large family. He thinks that simply being polite will make people listen to him."
I picked up on the violence thing of course, and she said, "Yes, he hit another child with a hoop. By accident, but it still counts as violence." I asked if there had been any other incidents because we do not condone physical violence at all and DS is not naturally a violent child, and she said there hadn't been any. So hitting another child with a hoop once by accident = being violent towards other children.
Once she had finished talking, I asked about his work because she hadn't said a single word about it. She said, "Oh, his maths is adequate. Now, I think it's time for you to go."
I don't want to drip-feed so I'll explain that my FiL was diagnosed with terminal cancer over the summer holidays which has naturally upset my DS. I mentioned it to his teacher at the start of term and also wrote in DS's homework journal when FiL started radiotherapy, just to clarify that if DS seems upset this is probably the reason. I can see that a child who over-reacts and cries at small things might be a bit of a PITA for a teacher, but his grandfather is dying a pretty painful, drawn-out death so surely a bit of empathy wouldn't go amiss! I am also wondering if she actually remembers about DS's grandfather's illness.
Anyway, what with all that negative feedback, I didn't get round to asking my one single question, which is why DS is coming home with reading books he read two years ago. He is reading Harry Potter at home so I'm not terribly fussed about the books he brings home from school being at a much lower level, but it would be nicer for him to have a bit more of a challenge.
So AIBU to ask for another meeting to offer an explanation for DS's recent over-sensitivity and also to ask WTF is the problem with being polite, why a single accidental hoop incident means a child is labelled as violent and why oh why oh why is DS coming home with reading books way below his reading level?
Sorry about the long post.

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exoticfruits · 10/11/2011 11:28

I don't think you can beat cory's advice-seems an excellent way to proceed.

AndTheyCalledHimSantyClaws · 10/11/2011 11:33

she sounds awful. I would be requesting another meeting with her and the head

Hullygully · 10/11/2011 11:35

she sounds utterly barking

CeeMac · 10/11/2011 11:42

I would definitely ask for a further meeting to reiterate the challenges that have been happening at home. Well done for encouraging more challenging reading at home

Baroozer · 10/11/2011 12:21

Thanks, cory. I shall do exactly that. I shall be positive and helpful, and get this whole thing sorted out.

Another parent told me this morning that the teacher said her DS was refusing to do any maths in school and that this had been going on all term! She asked her son about it and he told her that he was too frightened to ask the teacher for help because "she shouts if you disturb her." The parent said that she was going to ask for another meeting to find out why on earth the teacher had not flagged this up to her before. She was livid about the possibility that her DS had done no maths at all for 3/4 of the term.

It's awful, but I do feel better knowing that DS is not the only one on the receiving end of this teacher's negativity.

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Cherriesarelovely · 10/11/2011 12:29

Definitely go back to the teacher. Explain that since you have NEVER had these comments before about your DS they are extremely worrying for you in fact she has made him sound like a different child. I would be tempted to go to the Head actually, I think she sounds incredibly unreasonable and unpleasant. I am a teacher myself and would also be very concerned about a child who suddenly started having problems when had been previously getting along well. Some of her criticisms are ridiculous anyway....."too polite"???!!!

Sorry to hear about your FIL. That is really sad for you and your family.

Steffi90 · 10/11/2011 12:40

I would ask for another meeting. However, be direct and non aggressive. She sounds like a bit of a cow tbh. Just sit her down and explain about your childs current state and what's happening in his life. Try and put it in a way that you're sorry it inconviniences the class but he is a young boy and he is going through a lot. Also if you feel like it ask her whether any other teachers or the head think that your son is violent, mentioning how none of his previous teachers have brought up any of these issues with you before. Also state he is polite, because he knows the appropriate way to talk to someone and although he is young and is probably more relaxed with friends, when he's in a big group he is probably used to being a little more formal. That's what I would do if in the same situation. If you are able to, bring your partner or a friend with you for support, to stop you from getting too enraged and also so they can offer their opinions on the teachers attitude. If it becomes a big problem in the future don't be afraid to talk to the head of year, or even the deputy head/head. I hope everything goes okay. :)

exoticfruits · 10/11/2011 16:55

She sounds a nightmare. I remember my maths suffering badly for a year as a DC when I was too frightened of the teacher to ask for help.

exoticfruits · 10/11/2011 17:03

I would guess that if she is a teaching Head she is just over stretched and stressed-not that it is an excuse.

moonstorm · 10/11/2011 17:32

Is there any chance she was talking about the wrong child - silmilar name or something?? (Not that her manner was acceptable, but just a thought)

Baroozer · 10/11/2011 17:44

No chance at all that she was talking about the wrong child. There are only 25 in the class (Yr 3 and Yr 4) and there is no other child with a name similar to my DS's.

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ILoatheMickeyMouseClubhouse · 10/11/2011 17:44

You've received some fab advice, OP, especially from Cory. I would definitely go back and ask for another meeting, keeping things as positive and "what can we do to sort this out together?" as possible. I'm lucky that my childrens' teachers have all so far been lovely and very approachable, and I have to say I would feel upset if any of them were like your son's teacher was with you. Even if she had negative things to say, her manner could and should have been a lot better. How awful too that the other little boy doesn't feel able to ask her about his maths work as she doesn't like being disturbed. That's really bad.

exoticfruits · 11/11/2011 07:30

Let us know how it goes-good luck.

Baroozer · 11/11/2011 12:40

I've asked for a meeting next week. I've written down all the issues and DH and I are practising our "All we want to do is work with the school..." spiel.

More parents have been coming out of the woodwork, all upset and relieved that their child is not the only one. I'm so glad that we're all able to talk to each other about these things because it was so awful wondering if DS was the only one with such an awful report. Every single parent is requesting another meeting and there is talk of a complaint to the governors, but I think we'll all wait and see what the next meetings are like before that.

Also, on a positive note, after DH encouraged him, DS spoke to a teaching about his reading books and he has been moved up. Grin

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