mum on benefits can afford to keep her dds 2 horses

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This is a lovely mum by the way. She has never married but been with the same partner for 25 years and they have 3 dc. He works and has another home but stays in family home often, although because she is 'single' and on benefits, she gets everything paid for and her dc have free school meals. I assumed that as the mum was on benefits, she wouldn't have much money.

They have 2 horses and she spends a lot of the time with them. We have a mortgage and after all the bills are paid we don't have enough to keep one let alone 2 horses! Comes across as sour grapes, doesn't it? Sorry but

Op..... You have been digging and 'investigating' this family all day! And the mum is a friend????

You have slung their personal business all over the Internet for this sad little thread.

What kind of person are you?

This is not just any benefit fraud
This is top ranking dressage horses from tax haven benefit fraud.

Op... Is this the same mum and dd who you had another thread about? The one with an eating disorder/food issues?

Tilly's list was misinterpreted - the shoeing costs were shown per annum but it stated shoeing every 6-8 weeks... hence some rather over-enthusiastic mn'ers thought us muppets were spending 648 quid every 6 weeks on shoes ffs. They ain't wearing Choos!

I don't believe you can't afford heat all winter and your Dcs are sitting there now in full coat gloves an scarf. It's just too convincent.

it was a copy & paste from the horses trust. my vast experience of horses was achieved by the age of 8 when i used to ride v old rescued ponies that were a bit mankey & grumpy....

Judging by the extra information the op has given, these people should not be having benefits! If they can afford to keep 2 horses, compete them with all the costs involved than they do not need them, and are depriving someone who genuinly needs them.

Yes, based on the entirely contradictory information, we can safely make those assumptions.

They aren't depriving someone who needs benefits though! That's not how it works.

This is going on what the op has said, and yes people do take the piss, it happens.

Is this one of those joke threads which end up with a 'and here is a picture of them' and it turns out to be Fergie?

Meant going by what the op has said and the information she has given than yes they are taking the piss. It is ILove because that money could be used to help someone genuinely in need, not a couple with their expensive hobbies.

Totem's post at 18:29.

OP, how do you know any of your sources of information are reliable. These are the two different scenarios that you've posted on this thread.

He works and has another home but stays in family home often, although because she is 'single' and on benefits,

It turns out the father is staying with the mother and has been offered work in a local business as he's also unemployed

I'd be wary of making decisions taking all of that into account, certainly.

Excellent plan Bluddy MoFo. And maybe we should take the cost of the meat value into account when working out their assets?

Just to add my two penneth... i claim wtc and ctc as a single parent. I was sent a letter last to year to urge me to tell them if I was no longer single and it clearly said you do not need to live with someone. As long as you are seen to be part of a couple socially that is enough (there were other examples too but I can't remember them!). I recall that one as I thought, 'bit of pressure if I do ever meet someone then!'

Itchy, perhaps you can hide behind closed doors, that's bad. Anyone else had such a message?

Jajas, they can't shelter inside their innards for warmth if the horses are alive.

OP if you got no money for heating maybe you should cancel your internet and spend what you save on heating. Also i've not got my heating on as it not freezing, sitting in a jacket hat and gloves maybe a little bit premature

Both my family worker and sw have told me I am still legally a single parent, despite the fact that me and the boys dad are 'dating' again. As long as he isn't contributing finacially to the house, other than the maintenance he paid when we were separated, and doesn't sleep over reguarly, then I am classed as single.

Perhaps ops friend can make herself a horsehair vest ,as penance for being a single mother on benefits

the OP is a trendsetter as there is a second horse based AIBU thread & another about wellies.....

DD has asked for a pony for her 13th birthday. Now that I have read this thread I can pack in work and get her one for her upcoming 6th birthday. I will also through in an Oakley Supremacy horsebox too as a little extra present. Should manage to scrape up the £250000 price with all the money I will save on school meals.

Does anyone know why the laws surrounding benefits and what constitutes benefit fraud are so complicated?
As someone said earlier, even the lawyers will tell you it is complicated. If lawyers find it complicated, what hope have the rest of us got?
Is it too simplistic to expect the govt to be clear on what constitutes benefit fraud and what doesn't?
What constitutes a single parent? If as Itchychin says, being seen as part of a couple socially could mean that as far as DWP are concerned, you are no longer a single parent, does that mean that single parents can't date until they are sure the other person is committed to them?
I mean, what if a single mum were to meet a date for a drink? First date? If govt says being seen as a couple socially could mean you are seen to be in a relationship, then single parents would never be able to go on dates?

It all seems too vague and as such can be twisted into whatever DWP want to twist it into at the time. Not fair on anyone imo.