to fucking hate that guilt inducing advert with the excited children going to disney?

[PyrotechnicsAtYourCervix]

I could never afford to take mine so could never give them that amazing, exciting, happy feeling which appears to be the best thing you could ever give your children. I am a failure as a parent.

Thanks Disney you Bastards.

somethings are inherently superior?

WOW really I'd love to reply to that comment but I can't think of anything I could reply to such a judgemental heap of shit that wouldn't be pulled by Mumsnet.

And I just swore for the first time on mumsnet.

Personally I think one of the biggest thing we can teach are kids is not to be so judgemental and approach everything and everyone on it's own merits.

A person are no better nor intelligent because you have chosen not to take your kids to Disney, or because they didn't like it. That is why you should not feel guilty after watching the video.

Also having gone there with a child with SN I can say I appreciate the tolerance and general feeling that you come to have a good time.

Sorry, what I meant to say was

A person are no better nor intelligent because you have chosen not to take your kids to Disney, or because they didn't like it. Nor is the reverse true.

Everyone likes different things and the big enjoyment of any holiday is having fun and building memories with your family, however works best for you. That is why you should not feel guilty after watching the video, there are many ways of building memories.

Actually, ds finally accepted the whole concept of queueing when we went in the summer although with fast passes we weren't waiting that long for anything even in August. My exh was really dreading going first time with dds but booked to go again 18 months later!!

I don't think it's aimed at our age range - have heard it's more somewhere you go because the children will enjoy it. Y'know, having had your whole life before children to choose any high-brow, sophisticated holiday you like.

But you have to enter the spirit of it and enjoy it for the children's sake. There is an outright ban on looking down your nose at anything for the entire week you stay. In this household..

We have season tickets for Disneyland Paris. How thick and uncultured am I?

They cost 79 euros for a year, and we go when the DDs' school is off and French/English ones are not, so it is never busy and we never have to queue. Have never queued for more than 20 minutes for anything. It is a great thing to do on odd days and grey weekends, and when they broke up from school in mid June, we stayed near Disney in a cheap hotel (with a nice pool) which cost around 200 pounds for four of us for three nights. It was near the RER station, so we didn't have to cram ourselves on the free Disney bus, just one stop on the RER and we were there. Also near loads of restaurants and a huge shopping centre and the outlet mall which is why I chose it.

I bet the twatty mother is a mner.

The first time that advert came on in our house, dh's response was 'Christ, let's never, ever, take our children to Disney.'

I'm convinced the prat who loudly states 'floridaaaaa' is a mner.

Yanbu.

We've been to Disney Florida (am I the twatty mother?) twice, and loved it.

We have also been, with the children, to Africa, Paris, Rome, Florence, and camping in Wales. We loved them all.

Disney is fab because the sun is shining, everything is clean and lovely, everyone is cheery, the artistic attention to detail in the theming is utterly amazing and you cannot fail to be impressed by this and the scale and organisation.

We never queue for longer than 20 mins, we refuse to, so plan and use fast passes so never have to.

You can have a morning in a park then spend the afternoon swimming or lazing by the pool the go out for great food with excellent service. This to us is a good time.

My kids really do talk about Disney as if it's a magical place, they are constantly amazed, excited and happy whilst there and just constantly long to go back and discuss it all the time. Sorry.

But, if you really don't want to do this, and it's your or your kids idea of hell, fine, you don't have to, but why the snideness and judgement about those who have a good time doing this with their families?

If you do want to go, but can't afford it, the adverts must be a bit galling as are all adverts for stuff you want but can't have.

I'd love to take my DC on holiday, but we just can't afford it.

I don't mind avderts for shit we can't afford ourselves - but I do mind adverts that imply that the purchase of the product or service is the sign of a happy family.

But just about every advert aimed at families suggests that!!!!

Including adverts for visit Cornwall or Ireland or other intrinsically better places

True LunarRose. The advert for Haven UK holidays makes it all look very exciting. Trust me ours wasn't!

In fact that's true of any advert, the good of a good advert is to suggests you will be more happy/satisfied/intelligent/healthier if you buy their product.

Prehaps the problem is more with advertising in general than disney......

neither was mine Sparkling!!

My dd1 (5 at the time) cried when I told her that we were going to DisneyWorld Florida.

I loved our Disney holiday. 2 weeks at the Grand Californian.

We went in September, the rides were mostly walk ons. Mornings in the park, lunch and ritas by the pool in the afternoon, then back to the park for more rollercoasters.

We have a big trip planned to Disney in Florida in a couple of years to meet up with a bunch of expats who have scattered over the years. Just waiting for the last of the babies to not be babies.

I have done museums and art galleries and castles and natural wonders. Enjoying all of those things does not exclude enjoying Disney.

If I had that kind of money, I'd take my DC to Transylvania.

Couldn't agree more, my too love the science museums and castles, in their own way at their own level.

Translyvania really? Is that for the castles?

I have been to both American ones with older kids years ago and recently to Hong Kong and Paris Disney, Hong Kong was great, no queue just get on rides and go, then go again, but almost the same layout but smaller. Paris, went this year, kids aged 9 & 2yrs, they thought it was OK, it is just one big sales & marketing game, must be 30 plus shops or more in Disney Paris all selling the same junk, in fact it is cheaper in the Disney shops over here. In short I am bored with it all, I can see through the nonsense, but you know what there were still kids there and so excited so maybe I am turning to a grumpy old git.

I was in the Disney shop in Times square New York the week before last, I was trying to find the new Appmates, small cars that you drive over your ipad screen, they are interactive, great fun. Anyway this store had never heard of them and it was the launch of a Disney product, I went next door to Toys R Us and they had never heard of them, then a manager had overheard me moaning and said wait a minute I saw something like that at the back of the warehouse, to be fair she did find them but not until the next day when I went back to collect them. Sorry went off on one there, but I was about to say the Times Square Disney store is a bit a dump compared to the modern ones on the shopping centres here.

So in short, I can't stand Disney, they kids never want to go back, but did enjoy their time there, I think the rip off prices of everything from crappy hot dogs to drinks to toys e.t.c. are just a big turn off for me. By the way we went in our motorhome and parked in the motorhome area in Disney, if anyone wants info on that let me know, we were parked 10mtrs from the electronic walkway that takes you in.

Been to Translyvania and Draculas Castle (Castle Bran), it is a very poor area, they still use horses and carts, lot's of gypsy type people around but nice lace and other handmade articles.

Transylvania - the prehistory, Roman remains, the history, the landscapes, the wildlife, the Romanian people, the skiiing in winter, the palaces and castles...

Bran Castle's been bewilderingly made to seem like a rather large pizzeria. I think the plasterer went a bit mad.

It is a stunning place, in general. And a gateway to Europe in the paleolithic and a crucible of early civilisation in the neolithic and beyond.

The advert is designed to make you feel guilty (and therefor go to Disney!) which is why I hate it.