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AIBU?

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to believe that dog owners who leave their dogsh*t outside of schools/nurseries should be executed?

101 replies

FantasticVoyage · 27/10/2011 10:33

I think it's deliberate.

OP posts:
rycooler · 27/10/2011 11:44

Build an enclosure? So not only do I have to follow my cat around risking life and limb, I have to build an enclosure?

Cats have to go out ( well technically they don't, but it's not fair to keep them locked in 24/7 ) they can't help doing what they do - they're simply marking their territory, it's not personal.

toboldlygo · 27/10/2011 11:49

Dogs have to go out (well technically they don't, but it's not fair to keep them locked in 24/7) and they can't help doing what they do - they're simply marking their territory, it's not personal.

Hmm
HerRoyalMaj · 27/10/2011 11:51

Build an enclosure? So not only do I have to follow my cat around risking life and limb, I have to build an enclosure?
Cats have to go out ( well technically they don't, but it's not fair to keep them locked in 24/7 ) they can't help doing what they do - they're simply marking their territory, it's not personal.

There are plenty of indoor cats, and plenty of people keep expensive cats in outdoor enclosures. Cats shitting in my territory isnt personal, but its fucking irritating. I dont want your cat in my garden, END OF! If I was to put cat proofing along my boundary, and your poor kitty was hurt or upset, there would be hell to pay, but its ok for me and my dcs to be put out by your cat. Nice, Considerate.
If I wanted cat shit in my garden, Id buy my own cat!

DogsBeastFiend · 27/10/2011 11:55

People generally keep expensive cats in enclosures or indoors to protect their financial investment and not in the interests of cat welfare wrt offering the cat/s the opportunity to exhibit normal behaviour.

DogsBeastFiend · 27/10/2011 11:55
  • ie to protect their financial investment from theft.
rycooler · 27/10/2011 12:00

toboldlygo; and your point is?

HRM; My cat does his thing in our garden - I've seen him, although I'm sure he has, at times, 'marked his territory' in neighbouring gardens. I hope he keeps that particular activity to a minimum though, as I would hate to think he was annoying the neighbours. He's a great cat generally.

Haggyoldclothbatspus · 27/10/2011 12:00

Letting them roam free isn't in cats best interests. How many get run over, poisoned, trapped, stolen or shot?

Haggyoldclothbatspus · 27/10/2011 12:02

It's illegal in this country to release into the wild, a domesticated or non indigenous animal. Cats are neither, but that is ok! Why?

LineRunnerWitchyMother · 27/10/2011 12:04

I don't think it's mad to think that some schools are targetted. I used to live near a PRU (pupil referral unit) that some of the local residents really resented being there, and it was quite common for very large dollops of shit to be found right outside it.

When a local police officer started patrolling in the early hours, I wondered if the police had maybe thought the same thing.

toboldlygo · 27/10/2011 12:22

Rycooler - you're objecting to the idea that you ought to follow your cat around and keep him under close control in order to pick up his crap so it doesn't cause anyone any inconvenience, but that is exactly what is expected of dog owners - neither animal is doing it deliberately, it's just what they do and we have to deal with it. There is a double standard there. Can you imagine if I let a dog into your garden, it shit on your lawn and I merely said "ooh, it's nothing personal, he's just marking his territory?"

I don't know why I'm even arguing this because every dog owner should pick up their dog's crap. We know this. Nobody is going to argue otherwise. The phantom shit-leaver is not going to come on here and attempt to defend themselves (I'd be right there with you giving them hell if they did).

Meglet · 27/10/2011 12:26

yanbu, executing them is fine IMO. Although I would extend it to anywhere that a dog poo's and isn't cleaned up. We get dog poo around the business park where I work.

It's everywhere these days, like the 1980's again Angry.

LineRunnerWitchyMother · 27/10/2011 12:26

Every dog owner and dog walker should pick up.

Every cat owner should provide enough litter trays and/or garden ground. Gardens need to be kept clean and raked so that the cats like to use it. I have pots as well and the cats use those, and I clean them regularly. I am a Good Girl, honest.

LoveInAColdGrave · 27/10/2011 12:33

YANBU. Dog poo anywhere is rank. Some arseface has taken to letting their dog shit right outside our gate, several times a week. Since the pile is about the size of a horse shit, I think I know the culprit (the man in the street with the dog the size of a horse...) but he is absolutely terrifying so I don't think I'll be raising it with him.

Man with giant dog, if you are perchance reading this, please start picking up your dog's excrement. I suggest you start going on walks with a wheelbarrow and a spade...

TimothyClaypoleLover · 27/10/2011 12:38

Totally agree about the pesty cats. I am so sick of vetting my garden to ensure there is no cat shit in it before my DD plays out there. Does anyone know if there is anything you can do to (legally) discourage cats as DH is tempted to get set to work with his air rifle we have to endure so much cat shit.

shagmundfreud · 27/10/2011 12:39

YANBU

Our quarter mile walk to school along two suburban roads involves skirting at least three piles of dog shit. It incenses me that it'll be the same small number of owners creating this mess day in and day out on this route. I need to something about it - any suggestions? I never see the dogs crapping.

Mind you it doesnt upset me as much as what happened the other day: someone walked their dog into my front garden, let them crap and then disappeared without picking it up. My ds stepped in it as we were leaving the house to do the school run, came straight back in and walked the sloppy shhit into the hall carpet and all the way into the kitchen. Sad

DejaWho · 27/10/2011 12:39

I'd quite like to deliver a gift wrapped poo to the idiots who start the same old fucking troll the dog owners threads on here time and time again. Sadly my dog is obsessed with shitting in the middle of patches of nettles and I end up getting stung to fuck picking it up every day.

I can also do deliveries of cat shit for the usual "a cat once pooed in my garden and I need to share my traumatic story" crew - but you'll have to wait till my hubby's back from work for me to get him to get those out of the litter tray cos I ain't touching it while up the stick.

Only have last year's Christmas wrapping though - so they'll have to be wrapped in purple and turqoise.

LoveInAColdGrave · 27/10/2011 12:40

TCL - if you can catch them at it, a super soaker is very effective...

DogsBeastFiend · 27/10/2011 12:41

Lion poo, Timothy. Apparently that's the best thing to deter cats.

(Second only to the lion, I'd imagine).

I hope that you're joking about your DH and the air rifle. A criminal record is not a good thing to have on ones' CV and a kicking from AR activists can be very painful.

So... lion poo. A much better choice.

rycooler · 27/10/2011 12:42

toboldlygo: my argument on that would be a very simple one.
Cat poo is fairly small and confined to a small local area. Dog poo is 10x the size and there's more of it. ( dogs eat more than cats ) and if you let dogs roam free they'd do it anywhere and everywhere.
I know my cat doesn't wander far from home, a dog would be shitting outside sainsbury's, at the bus stop, outside schools, you name it. That's why you have to have a licence to own one.

DogsBeastFiend · 27/10/2011 12:43

DejaWho, I'd recommend a long handled poo picker-upper. Hang on, let me find a link.

LoveInAColdGrave · 27/10/2011 12:45

I've heard the lion poo thing before and am told our local safari park sells it. However, I am a touch confused about how it works... surely instead of having piles of cat shit around, one would have piles of lion shit instead? Is that really less gross? Or is the idea that you leave the lion poo there for a while, then clear it away, but by then the local cats have hopefully found a new, lion-free latrine?

We have recently put up a metre high fence round our garden. FIL saw it and asked if it had stopped the cats coming in Grin.

DownbytheRiverside · 27/10/2011 12:46

'Sadly my dog is obsessed with shitting in the middle of patches of nettles and I end up getting stung to fuck picking it up every day. '

Have you considered using gloves? Or do you enjoy the pain?

nancerama · 27/10/2011 12:47

I too am troubled by the cat poo. If you're a cat owner who thinks it's not that big a problem, I'd gladly invite you into my garden where we "harvest" a carrier bag full every Saturday. Apparently as mine is one of the few gardens without its own cat, it's disputed territory.

Last year I was burgled, if losing half my stuff wasn't bad enough, the perpetrator had also trampled said cat poo all over my house. The clean up job was horrific.

Minus273 · 27/10/2011 12:47

Every dog owner should pick up after their dog, its disgusting otherwise. This isn't an anti dog thread but anti dog owner who can't be arsed to everything that is involved in looking after their dog. Dogs are fine and dog owners who clean up after their dogs are fine its just the messy ones who aren't

SusanneLinder · 27/10/2011 12:49

Of COURSE dog owners should pick up after their pets, it's a non debate.

But Executed?????? How ridiculous