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To wonder who uses the pay day loans advertised on TV?

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PrincessScrumpy · 24/10/2011 18:05

They have typical 1374% APR on the ad I just saw - who uses them? Surely it's just a company disguising a loan shark and should be banned!

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TheSecondComing · 25/10/2011 19:32

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TheMonster · 25/10/2011 19:34

I have used them in the past.

itspeanutbutterjellytime · 25/10/2011 19:35

TSC Christ that's awful, so sorry to hear about that Sad

TheMonster · 25/10/2011 19:36

I find the sneering in this thread a bit upsetting. I have a good job (I'm a teacher), and my partner works too. Sadly, we owe a lot of money from when I was off work with depression and we don't always make it through the month with cash once debt are paid.
I'm not vulnerable. I'm not stupid.

GossipWitch · 25/10/2011 19:37

My stupid brother who dragged me down with him as guarantor, needed a loan to pay off a bill and didn't realised it was a payday loan, 1 year later at £40 per month in payments, and a little look at his balance to see that he hadn't touched his loan amount, sent him in a nut house for a few days.... nice, he has mental health problems.

TheMonster · 25/10/2011 19:49

Mental health problems don't make him stupid.

StaceymAloneForver · 25/10/2011 21:21

anyphantom I did say idiots or the desperate I know circumstance sometimes dictates. My xh however was just an idiot when he did it month after month and for into 18k worth of debt!

AnyPhantomFucker · 25/10/2011 21:32

well, stacey, that is better how you have worded it this time

but just casually saying "Only idiots or the desperate" is a bit off

like tsc said..we can all be there

personally, if DH ever breaks his leg/puts his back out seriously we are fucked

he is self employed...so sick pay shite and wouldn't cover the bills

he has critical illness policies but they don't kick in for 3 months (standard) and sooo many examples of them not fucking paying out anyway

by which time, because his earnings have dropped by 2/3 because of the recession and I cannot get any more hours at work because of the recession we wil be defaulting on the mortgage and not paying any bills

we live hand to mouth, as so many people do

AnyPhantomFucker · 25/10/2011 21:34

stacey, I do agree however that some people are just fucking greedy idiots

I do believe however, that the sharp rise in people needing emergency financial assistance is nothing to do with that

SurprisEs · 25/10/2011 21:40

I used when DH lost his job. I panicked at not being able to pay the bills. Wish I hadn't. It made things worse.

Am on a 2.5 yrs plan to get rid of all debt and things are looking up though! Half a year is already gone!

SurprisEs · 25/10/2011 21:42

Didn't mention that it was a debt management plan.

It is one of those that charge. But it is still better than the hole we were in.

AnyPhantomFucker · 25/10/2011 21:45

thankfully, because we are quite old we will pay the mortgage off in 3 years

so if he can just refrain from falling off a ladder/fucking up his back (again) we might be ok

< sigh >

SixStringWidow · 25/10/2011 21:57

I have used Wonga a few times and would again.

I'm not stupid.

I tried a debt management plan this time last year, they screwed me for £170 per month for 4 months - then after paying that amount they told me the proposal had been rejected by my creditors and basically said See Ya!

One week before I gave birth I contacted all creditors myself and told them my situation and came to an agreement with them direct. I will be paying one of the loans for the next 30 years!

Not sure why I'm telling you this but I am of the opinion that you do what you have to do to - and if a payday loan is the way then it's your decision.

No one should be judged for doing what they have to do to get by.

Awordinedgeways · 26/10/2011 00:22

At the risk of posing some uncomfortable truths:

Who uses these services? Often those who have nowhere else to go other than your local friendly (not) loan shark Ie those with bad credit ratings.

It's the lesser of two evils. We cannot stop the demand for these devices, so better it's done via these companies. The alternative is those who will come round with the baseball bats.

Is the annualised rate high? Yes, but you are borrowing for a week/month relatively small amounts of money. Just to pay the overheads (call centre, paperwork etc, it costs pretty much the same to lend £100 as it is to lend £1000) and compensate for the non-repayers (remember, the borrowers often have no credit rating - see above) the companies will need to charge a high amount, and that is before they make any profit.

If you think thats its still high, imagine somebody lending you £20 until the end of the week which you repay and buy them a drink to say thanks. Even if its a cup of tea the annualised rate is huge.

Yes the world would be better if nobody needed them, and yes it's not a long term solution, but it is better than the alternative.

microserf · 26/10/2011 07:55

this is something that really fucks me off. the less money you have, the more you will pay to borrow money. becomes a vicious cycle. i worked in a consumer advice centre for low income people and was utterly livid to see how some people were treated, even by large companies you'd think were reputable.

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KouklaWhooooo · 26/10/2011 08:26

My db got into terrible debt with Wonga.com :( I expect that when he took out the loans he intended to pay them back straight away, but he didn't. He ended up owing £1000s. He was gambling.

StaceymAloneForver · 26/10/2011 08:34

am slightly confused as i worded my statement the same both times, but hey ho!

shinybaubles · 26/10/2011 08:42

Many many people use them, and they all largely come from the same postcodes, I think they legally have to put the interest rates up and be visible. Many people also use them more than once so are repeat customers.

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