To be really shocked by the amount of make up school girls are allowed to wear?!

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Ok, I'm 30 so it wasn't that long ago I was at school and I wore a bit of mascara but have just watched educating Essex and these girls are CAKED in make-up! Am really shocked

look- they are year ten, and mostly discreet, if they wear any. Years seven and eight were much worse.

Really shocked?

YABU

Think they look like wallies are will cringe at their pictures when older?

YANBU

It doesnt bother me tbh but when my ds's used to get sent home for a few subtle highlights in their already blonde hair or for it being too short or long,i always felt it was unfair on them when the girls were allowed dyed hair and make up. Sexist i think is the word.

do you know, Shitty, we were wondering how long it took Carrie to trowel on all that stuff

I know she was nasty to her friend, but I couldn't help thinking she was brilliant, for the maffs stuff alone

It's so sad to feel the need to waste so much of your time making yourself look IMO dreadful. My DD (15) also spends IMO too much time on her hair and make up but she completely looks down her nose at fake tans and yellowy-blonde hair. (Her skirt is too short though).

who cares, it's just a bit of fun, I used to put mine on while I was walking to school..it's good for your skin, protects it from the drying effects of the weather and what have you.
I've always worn make up, hardly ever bother to clean it off just put on a fresh coat every day, my skin is just fine:)

DDs school is very strict about make up. Girls are given wipes and sent out of class to remove it. According to DD there is no point trying to get away with it because you always get caught - though that doesn't stop some repeat offenders who keep trying!

This is a state school too BTW.

DSs school rules allow make up i/e foundation/concealer/powder for both genders if necessary as they understand that teen skin can need some help which i think is great, bit of subtle gloss, lippy , mascara fine but save the OTT make up for the weekend i think

Girls here (deepest Surrey/Hants/Sussex border) don't seem to wear any, or not that is noticeable anyway. The 6th form college students don't either, apart for the goths of course.

The preferred look appears to be "just back from Val d'Isere/Hickstead/Cannes (depending on time of year), didn't have time to change" :)

Where I work, we hand out make-up wipes and they dab round their eyes hoping that removing a smidgin of mascara will satisfy the staff. It doesn't and they look horrified when you point out that you want them to remove the whole inch thick layer of foundation! They quite often need more than 1 make-up wipe. If someone has a little bit of mascara etc, they are far more likely to get away with it. Nail varnish isn't allowed either - remover is provided.

On the whole in my experience the vast majority of teenage girls seem to be a total nightmare in a way that boys just aren't.

Schoolgirls around here have a full backcombed hairsprayed curly blowdry a la Cheryl Cole, bright pink lips like Cher Lloyd and an inch of foundation on top of their 12 minutes every day on the sunbed skin.
They sit in class like mannequins not wanting to break a nail or smudge their gloss or let a single hair fall out of place.

I want to scream at them that the world doesn't care and education is way more important than looks but I know they won't listen or care.

perri certainly not my experience.The ones I know are charming, intelligent, funny and ambitious. So are the boys to be honest, but they can sometimes come over as a bit grunty and monosyllabic.

I am an Essex girl too, but even I was a bit at the make up that girl was wearing, DP shouted "DD won't be going to school like that!".

When I was at school in the 90's make up was permitted in the upper school but if it was deemed too heavy it had to be taken off.

TBH, the lack of self esteeme would worry me more than the amount of make-up - the need to wear a mask at that age.

Where I work, we have face polishing assemblies - all lined up and handed the wet wipes!!! A week of that and they give up.

Anyone with hair extensions - sent home, anyone with ridiculous colours - sent home, ditto false nails, ditto fake tan

Lack of decent grooming bothers me more - I know fashions go in cycles and I can rememebr the shaggy look, the touselled look - but the current fashion for looking like you have nits and bedhead and been dragged through a hedge backwards is just "ikky"

I can remember spending about 1.40 mins getting ready to go to school not, never had breakfast lol

I actually really miss having time to spend that long getting ready

'Carrie with the false eyelashes in Educating Essex gets up at 4.30am to get ready for school'

Carrie looks like a creature of the deep !! She should be sent out with a bottle of cleanser some cotton wool and a hair bobble.

I thinks its a bit much to be personally insulting to a bunch of school girls on an internet forum shes 16 come'on

I don't care about a bit of make up, it just makes me sad that these beautiful young girls want to cake themselves in foundation.
They are so young and have lovely young skin.
They don't need it.

Is it me or is Tulisa doing the orange foundation tonight also?

loveglove I did the henna thing too, when I was 16. I imagined I would attain deep red, glossy locks to die for. I ended up with bright ginger hair for about 6 months. Whatever the box says...that shit does NOT wash out!

'They are so young and have lovely young skin'

really? I wouldn't call young skin lovely.Often greasy and prone to pimples is my recollection.
Rollon2012 we are criticising her make up, not her.

saying she looks like a creature from the deep is personal and nasty tho

i think these young girls with their lovely young skin are 'gilding the lilly' with all that make up..but to say they dont 'need' make up doesnt really make sense, no one needs make up, what is considered attractive is culturally determined and/or a matter of personal taste.
The young girls probably think the older women look appalling too and shouldnt be wearing xyz

I agree they wear far too much, but ...

I used to work in a school where we tried to ban makeup and it's not easy, for many reasons: It's impossible to draw a line apart from saying no make-up is allowed, and even that is very difficult to police if the make-up is natural. Male teachers are reluctant to challenge teenage girls on these sort of issues (also short skirts). We used to provide face wipes for girls to remove their makeup, but you can't literally wipe it off their faces (much as I would like to sometimes!) so it's diificult to force them to remove it. There is little parental suuport for a make up ban, we had plenty of letters citing self-esteem issues and acne etc. Also, there are plenty of other issues to deal with like behaviour, homework, attendance, punctuality which actually affect academic performance, whereas makeup doesn't. The reality is for teachers, it's a case of 'pick your battles'.

FWIW I taught for 7 years in an 'outstanding' secondary school in a leafy suburb of a small town and think Educating Essex is a pretty realistic portrayal of secondary school life these days.