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To politely suggest to the Nursery that they shouldn't be using Nestle products?

288 replies

zimm · 19/10/2011 10:03

DD's otherwise excellent nursery serves some nestle branded cereals. This doesn't sit well with me as I don't think a place that cares for children should support Nestle. I imagine it just hasn't crossed their minds but it does bug me that her fess are used to buy products from Nestle. WIBU to take in some baby milk action stuff and make a suggestion they switch products? Yes I know they are are bigger things to worry about but I do believe if a nestle boycott is worth doing, then it is worth doing right.

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LittleOneMum · 19/10/2011 11:08

I'd go along with a leaflet and say, very nicely, that you'd rather your DD was not given Nestle products. I'd given them the leaflet and say that you just wanted them to know that there is a decent reason behind your decision, but that you wouldn't dream of telling them what they should do. they may decide to do it themselves.

WillowFae · 19/10/2011 11:13

Maybe NotJustClassic but is it doing any good? I was made aware of the Nestle issue when I was in the 6th form in 1989 when we got some head honcho from Nestle in to talk to explain why they did what they did (long story) but now, 22 years later I don't see them stopping what they are doing, nor have they gone out of business.

Yes, it is a popular boycott, but it's not really damaging them.

NotJustClassic · 19/10/2011 11:19

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Mishy1234 · 19/10/2011 11:27

YANBU to mention it to them.

A lot of people are unaware of the issues surrounding Nestle (I was until I had DS1), so I would just give them the information. After that it's up to them if they stop using their products or not.

CamperFan · 19/10/2011 11:32

I think littleonemum makes a good suggestion.

ionysis · 19/10/2011 11:35

I think YABU using the word "shouldn't".

I think it would be reasonable to write to them and ASK if they would be interested to participate in the Nestle boycott for the following reasons (list the accusations against nestle). Point out that many mothers choose not to use Nestle products, including yourself and you thought it might be useful information for them to have. Kind of like asking someone if they will sign a petition.

TandB · 19/10/2011 11:36

I also agree with littleonemum - you can request that your own child is not fed Nestle products, and you can provide them with the information as to why. But you really can't tell them that they "shouldn't" be using the products.

This is a personal belief - I am not saying it is wrong, or that many others don't share the belief - but it is still a personal choice you are making based upon what you believe to be an ongoing injustice. The nursery have the right to come to a different conclusion if they choose.

TandB · 19/10/2011 11:36

x-posted with ionysis

colken · 19/10/2011 11:42

Just what does Nestle do that jeopardises children in other countries? All I have read so far on this topic is that children die in foreign countries. Nestle is a provider of food so what are they doing wrong? I really am ignorant of what you think is wrong.

SoupDragon · 19/10/2011 11:43

"In the United Kingdom, 73 student unions, 102 businesses, 30 faith groups, 20 health groups, 33 consumer groups, 18 local authorities, 12 trade unions, education groups, 31 MPs, and many celebrities support the Nestle boycott."

102 businesses? Out of how many in the UK?! Small one person businesses or multi nationals? if you take the population into consideration the proportion will be tiny and a good number of people involved in the listed groups will actually have no idea a boycott is taking place, let alone what for.

SoupDragon · 19/10/2011 11:45

Very basically, colken, they use unethical marketing practices to get mothers to switch to formula (free to start with) which they then can't afford and can not make up hygienically due to bad water supplies.

tiktok · 19/10/2011 11:48

info.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree

ComradeJing · 19/10/2011 11:50

YANBU to bring it up with them.

FFs the op is hardly saying she will storm in and demand they boycott and chain herself to the climbing frame unless they do.

Why on earth would it be unreasonable to suggest an ethical decision to someone?

TheBrideofFrankenstein · 19/10/2011 11:50

Nestle boycott is a load of wank It's just easy to comply with as you can avoid Nestle with no personal sacrifice whatsoever (who really needs a kitkat?). As such it's an easy sop to the consciences of people who don't give a crap about the working lives of thousands of other people who make/grow stuff that they consume, because that might actually mean personal sacrifice.

onagar · 19/10/2011 11:51

The thing about 12 trade unions or 18 local authorities support it just means that when asked "Do you think the welfare of babies is important enough to justify a boycott of nestle" they nervously said "err... yes?"

Many of us will be in one of those trade unions or local authorities yet like most people I've only heard it mentioned on MN.

Sometimes I see a thread on MN where say 60 of the 100 posters are supporting something and I think "wow 60% of people think this is right?"
and then I realise "no - just 60 people altogether" :o

TheBrideofFrankenstein · 19/10/2011 11:54

Exactly, and I bet if you said to the 73 Student unions "Ok students. We're going to boycott all Apple products as they're made by people in China in very poor working conditions" they'd all start blubbing about how they can't survive a whole term of lectures without Angry Birds on their ipad.

But say "no nestle products in the vending machines" and who really cares? Cadbury's is nicer anyway.

Chestnutx3 · 19/10/2011 12:01

So you need to uphold your political belief unless you are willing to take your child out of nursery if they refuse to stop using Nestle products then it is meaningless to do anything about it.

Also you need to be consistent - I assume you never buy supermarket cheap clothes for your DC or yourself, or go to Primark, or buy anything made in China (insert lots of other countries too).

Nursery will probably just empty Nestle products into a plastic container so you won't know.

GypsyMoth · 19/10/2011 12:02

I hope your child's networked doesn't wear 'primark'!

GypsyMoth · 19/10/2011 12:03

Networked? Auto correct, 'keyworker'

filiscare · 19/10/2011 12:04

'I may post over in breast and bottlefeeding to see if I get a different response!'

So basically because we don't overwhelmingly agree with you, you are stomping off. [hhmm]

ScaredTEECat · 19/10/2011 12:05

"I think most people who are made aware of Nestle's actions in the developing world and care about children would err on the side of boycotting them."

Nope. Not true. I don't boycott them at all. I don't think boycotts work. And I love a lot of their products.

CamperFan · 19/10/2011 12:06

filiscare, I think OP was genuinely surprised that more people did not agree, I don't think she was flouncing!

ScaredTEECat · 19/10/2011 12:10

I meant to point out that the Nestle boycott started in July 1977. 34 years ago. I don't see them going out of business any time soon. Do you?

And 102 business is nothing in the scope of the entire UK. How many businesses do you think there are in the UK? I just did a quick Google. 27 million retail businesses.

camdancer · 19/10/2011 12:26

A few years ago WHO or UNICEF, I can't remember which, did a report that said that all the big formula companies were as bad as each other. Nestle, Danone and a few other big ones were all ignoring rules or bypassing them as much as they could. I emailed Baby Milk Action and said were they going to boycott those companies also. Nope, they didn't care about anyone except Nestle. That's when I stopped my boycott. It has become a personal thing between BabyMilkAction and Nestle - nothing at all about trying to stop the dreadful practices that are killing children.

So YABU, boycott Nestle if you want to, but don't force it on others.

porcamiseria · 19/10/2011 12:27

OHH FFS

they will laugh in your face

i get why Nestle are bad, but pick your battles OP

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