To wonder what possible motive Vincent Tabak had for killing Joanna Yeates.

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He apparently didn't know her. Why would he do that? I really can't get my head around it.

That is why he is saying he did not know her because you cannot have ontent in that case - he is a clever chap. He will of course be convicted but I do think that in the case of a psychopath or sociopath they do rather enjoy the drama and replay of all they have done - it is part of the thrill for them. He searched all about body decomposition etc and the area her dumped her in - he has made no attempt to hide what he has done so I think it is all part of his fucked up game to make sure it lasts as long as possible with as much evidence as possible and making her family and loved ones suffer too.

I've been wondering the same thing. Does anyone know if he's still with the girlfriend he had at the time?

happy he admitted manslaughter not murder, ie no intent to kill.

i know, i said he had admitted he killed her

Thanks for explaining manslaughter custard. Now i'm even more baffled because you surely cant strangle someone and say you didnt mean for them to die because you'd let them go. So can only assume he'll say he was impaired in which case how could you research everything on the net, drive to asda etc. This world frightens me.

This is the crux of he case whereever you read about it - how using stangulation to kill someone can ever be classed as manslaughter. The definition about impairment is interesting, no doubt his defence will be along those lines.

Have just been having the same discussion with my mum. It is really awful and chilling. Poor woman and her poor family.

there is something called involuntary manslaughter too

I really can't work out the motive either and have been thinking about it.

FWIW, I don't actually think there was anything in his past. I think that he went round to Joanna's flat for some reason, tried it on with her and she said no. Maybe he was a bit rough. Suddenly, he realised that she was his next door neighbour/would go to the police/his girlfriend and work would find out............ I think he just snapped and killed her. I do think however the whole Asda shopping thing etc was bizarre. However, I wonder if he a very logical, rational, almost cold person and this was just (albeit a very twisted) logical way for him to deal with the problem.

I'll stop the cod pschology now!

Groovee,
But Peter Tobin had spent time in prison for drugging and raping two young teenagers, to be honest he should have been looked into about the disappearence of Vikki Hamilton back then.

i do find it strange that he apparently has no record, no-one has come forward to say he is strange or made them uneasy, his friends and colleagues were all shocked and his university colleagues were trying to set up a defense fund before he confessed, he had a girlfriend who was there later that night etc. The prosecution are saying he looked up about the case on the news (which is not so odd as she was his neighbour), and rubbish collection times, etc yet there has been no mention of him looking at violence porn or anything like that. It is just so strange.
Why can't people just leave other people alone, Joanne's life is gone just as it was beginnning, her family will never get over it, her boyfriend will never fully get over it, he is going to spend years in prison, his family will probably never fully get past it, his girlfriend is going to have major problems with trust in the future. What a waste.

I read that she died from compression to the neck. So perhaps she wasn't strangled, but by some other kind of force was used.
Sadly, I expect the details will come out during the trial.

I think the really cold thing is that they suspect he ate the pizza she had brought. that to me just seems sociopathic, that he could end someones existance then calmly go and eat, and then kill two birds with one stone by dumping her body when he is out on a shopping trip a couple fo hours later.

I was thinking that op. Joanna Yates was a friend of dd godparents son. The general consensus was that it was the landlord as he was a bit of an oddball, but it was someone who was most unlikely.

Yes I agree kelly its is quite a psychopathic thing to do, kill the person than eat the pizza that they bought, rather like a trophy thing.

How can he say he didn't know her when they lived in the same block of flats?

It can't have been coincidence she died the night her partner was away. IIRC she posted on FB about him being away.

Shinyblackgrape has come up with the nearest scenario that I have been thinking of.

But there may be nothing in his past. Someone I knew was convicted of strangling a stranger by hand. I'd never found anything abnormal during time spent in their company

It is likely that they did not know Tabac, as they moved in October, and she died in December, but they probably passed him and gave him the time of day as their flats were next to each other.

Do to ow if true or not bur at the time I recall in papers there was something about the way the flats were configured - a blocked u doorway led from his flat to hers. Pure speculation but I do wonder if he had been spying on them and somehow got into the flat through that entrance rather than her opening the door. Whatever happened it's such a tragic waste and I can't imagine the pain her parents must be feeling.

Kelly, I was just about to post that. That was bloodcurdling, hearing that he'd eaten the pizza.

The pizza has been a big feature of this, hasn't it? Makes me wonder whether the police have been stressing it because they knew she hadn't eaten it (once they found her body, that is) and the box wasn't in her bin and so they were hoping it would remind someone that someone close to them had eaten the same pizza that night.

It's so awful for her and her boyfriend and family, but also for his girlfriend. I can't begin to imagine what she must feel like. And his parents - imagine discovering your child had done something so terrible.

He probably made a pass at her, she said no and so on.

How can he say he didn't know her when they lived in the same block of flats?
I don't know the people who live on the upper floor of my building. There's only six flats here, but still I never see them except very briefly in passing. I don't think I would recognise them on the street.

I imagine his defence is going to be something like he broke into their flat thinking they were both away, she came home and he panicked and killed her. But even that would still be very odd - why on earth would he break in?

There were 2 glasses out for the cider she had bought and witnesses today said she seemed a bit bored/lonely that her boyfriend was away. She Had sent texts to some other friends asking what they wrre up to I'm not for on minute suggesting she was anning anything with Tabak but I wonder if he turned up at her door and she invited him in for a neighbourly drink. He seemed "safe" as she knew who he was, knew he had a girlfriend etc.....

Joanna and her boyfriend had only just moved into their flat, that's why they didn't know the neighbours.

But who put the glasses out, shiny?

I don't think he will be claiming that he broke in thinking that they were away as I think I read that Joanna had seen him through the window and obviously if he was outside he would have seen her too.