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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be a bit pissed off that after all the cuts, £250,000,000 has been 'found' for weekly bin collections?

346 replies

Annpan88 · 30/09/2011 08:11

Correct me if I'm wrong but after all these cuts to services and people losing their jobs, I believe the government has decided to make changes to the minor Inconvenience that is fornightly bin collections?

Yes, it is a bit of a pain in the arse but I don't see how its the most important thing in thw world and I'm guessing people are pretty use to it.

I just wonder if people are feeling like me, AIBU?

OP posts:
Debs75 · 30/09/2011 11:33

We have always had weekly collections with garden/food waste and recyclables fortnightly.

Now that my food waste goes in the brown bin with garden waste my black bins just don't get full. We have 2 as we have 4 kids but most weeks it is half empty. If we have a good clear out them it may get almost full but never needed the other one yet.

They are good with the recycling and those 2 are often full to the brim within 10 days, ever mind a fortnight.

If you don't recycle then you might need them collecting every week but we can easily do with once a fortnight

redlac · 30/09/2011 11:35

We have fortnightly collections - general waste one week, garden waste the other and we have a weekly recycling collection and a weekly food collection.

HOWEVER I would much rather that the Government put immense pressure on manufacturers, supermarkets, etc to STOP over packaging stuff then we wouldn't be responsible for recycling the stuff. Take a multipacket of kitkats (for example) - that has THREE layers of wrappers! Madness!

MillyR · 30/09/2011 11:43

There are still a lot of people posting on this thread complaining about other people getting weekly bin collection, when in fact the posters themselves do have weekly bin collection of various recycled items, including food waste.

It seems as if you want to deny people something that you already have yourselves.

mouldyironingboard · 30/09/2011 11:52

I would be delighted to return to weekly bin collections. We make regular trips to our local refuse centre as we can't leave the rubbish to accumulate for a fortnight as the local foxes, rats and flies seem to get to it before the council do.

I agree with redlac that the amount of packaging is madness. There is nowhere locally that we can recycle plastic packaging. Also, our refuse collectors won't provide extra bins or boxes so I can't recycle glass and tin foil at the same time as garden waste and paper/cardboard.

prettybird · 30/09/2011 11:57

YANBU. We have recently gone to fortnightly collections (announcement won't change things for us as I'm in Scotland). We effectively share two bins with our dounstrairs neighbours (big house which has been converted into two households, so four adults and 3 children in total).

This week was the first time that two green (ie general) bins were put out for the two households. The last 3 collections we've been able to put out one bin - which means that we'd filled a quarter of it per household per week.

What has changed dramatically is the amount that we put into our blue (recycling) bins now that we are allowed to put cardboard in - both blue bins are now full every fortnight.

Our previous neighbours however would have struggled. God knows how they generated so much waste. Part of the reason is that they refused (yes, refused) to put anything in the recycling bin - even wanted to get the council to take back the blue bins when we complained that all the bins were being stored on "our" side of the garden and impeding our entry to the back garden.

I can however sympathise with those people who have small gardens and don't have the space for lots of wheely bins: we now have 8 (2xgreen=general, 2xblue=recycling, 2xbrown=garden waste and 2xpurple=glass) but fortunately now have neighbours who are happy for them to be kept near the bottom of the driveway and not in our (but not their) back garden. :) Our former neighbours didn't want to leave them in the front driveway because that's what the Asians do ShockShock

schroeder · 30/09/2011 12:08

Of course the cuts are idealogically driven, money can always be found for the things they want to do.

I'm feeling a bit rough at the moment and this tipped me over the edge this morning. DD is all 'why are you crying Mummy?' Angry Sad

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 30/09/2011 12:18

YANBU
We never fill a black bag in a week, thanks to jolly good recycling. Both recycling and rubbish collections are weekly here, but we could easily move to fortnightly although I'd have to drop my empties off at the supermarket.

However having lived in flats in the city centre I think collections there ought to remain as weekly - before we had such good recycling collection I'd have said twice weekly would be better. I'm sure it would be doable.

joshop · 30/09/2011 12:19

Definitely not being unreasonable. Spending money at a time like this on something that seems low down a list of priorities, that include healthcare, child protection and policing, proper funding of which is in all our interests, not just those who are supposedly being subsidised by readers of the Mail.

However I do understand that some people do have problems with fortnightly collections and some funding could be targeted for exceptions. Food waste ought to be collected weekly (especially in warm weather) and food bins need to be lined or cleaned regular to protect against rats, foxes etc.

I appreciate the comments about large blocks of flats where there's no space to store bins outside. We have a back garden but no front space so we can store rubbish outside but have to drag it upstairs and through the house the night before collection day. I've got used to it so wouldn't want to go back to weekly collections now but there are probably others who really struggle
and could do with a weekly collection. However they are probably not paying enough tax to deserve any more help?

Mum2Luke · 30/09/2011 12:22

We are coping very well with alternate bin collections (one week for recycling, the next for domestic waste and once a month for paper), if they go back to weekly I won't have any room on the drive to put all the bins out as our neighbours have to put theirs on our drive too.

Have they had a secret stash of money put away?

DorisIsAPinkDragon · 30/09/2011 12:26

we have fortnightly collection green waste and recycling one week and non recyclable the next.

We have two wheelie bins and 2 different coloured babgs for the recycling (one paper one plastics). tbh it works just fine for us a a family of 5 with I still in nappies (we did have 2 for a long while).

For those whose property can not accomodate wheelie bins the council manage weekly collections which is perfectly acceptable.

Theer is no need for such a huge amount of money to be wasted reintyroducing weekly collections.

deardear · 30/09/2011 12:27

very cheesed off and glad someone else is too! We have black bins for general non recylcable rubbish collected one week and then recylcing and brown bin the next. Despite numerous requests to our council over the past 3 years i have still not had a second blue bin for recycling paper and plastic. We have to use bin bags and put them by the side - thats fine but living in the country the cats of the neighbourhood and badgers love ripping these apart! i can fill a brown bin in a week easily as well.

why not put this money into updating our school buildings and other local community things.

jandymaccomesback · 30/09/2011 12:34

Whether you need weekly collections depends on how it is done. We used to have weekly collections and had trouble with cats, foxes etc foraging for food.Now we have a food canister which is collected weekly, a recycling bin and a non recycling bin which are collectedfortnightly on alternate weeks. Sofar this has proved much better than the old system. Wouldn't want to go back to weeklycollection of black sacks.
Incidentally on the news bulletin I saw theMP concerned kept referring to refuse as "refuge". Didn't endear him to me.

ouryve · 30/09/2011 12:47

Ours are still weekly and have been under threat of going fornightly. Since there is little else than stinky nappies, provided by the NHS in there at the end of the week, not only would we struggle to recycle more, if they did go fortnightly, they would stink even more by the time they're collected, especially in summer. I'm quite glad of the possible reprieve.

TalkinPeace2 · 30/09/2011 12:50

Weekly
Fortnightly
Monthly
ANY would be an improvement on what I've been living with since Easter
and its about to start again
www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9281258.Council_workers_prepare_for_biggest_strike_yet_over_pay_cuts/
www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9244663.Row_as_council_launches_hunt_for_more_binmen/
www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9192655.Anger_as_strike_deal_collapses/

Alternate weekly - that would be my choice

P-P-Pickles is all for "localism" unless people contradict him.

angelinterceptor · 30/09/2011 12:51

If everyone had space for big wheelie bins - we dont have much space but have 3 of them!

Haven't had weekly collections for years here - its completley fine

In this country we have got so lazy with regard to rubbish though - like what they do in some other countries where there is more recycling big bins at the side of the roads, so easy to take your rubbish or recycling to these bins.

In the house i rented last year for a bit, we had fortnightly rubbish collection, but every week they would take ANY recycling, eg paper, bottles, cans, plastics. It was great, and in the summer months they would do the garden waste too.

mummytotwoboys · 30/09/2011 13:05

YABU - I voted conservative and this is exactly what I want. I hate the fact my bin is emptied fortnightly at the min - in my little world, this is a lot more important to me than the centre for drug addicts down the road which has just been closed. shrug

oldsilver · 30/09/2011 13:09

YDNBU. I was only saying on another thread we struggle to fill our landfill black bin in a fortnight (I put out a carrier bags worth of two weeks rubbish last night). We have fortnightly general rubbish and weekly food/recycling collection and next year they are going to collect plastics/tetra as well. There is so much more this money could be used for. The only one's with full/smelly bins round here are those that are VERY vocal about not bothering to recycle cause that's the council's job innit.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 30/09/2011 13:14

I have mixed feelings about this. Where is the evidence that fortnightly rubbish collection has increased recycling.

One of our local councillors, when I raised plastic recycling as an issue, said that those who recycled plastic already would do so anyway, therefore didn't want to use public money to do so Hmm

But on the other hand, next door recycles nothing uses disposable nappies and their bin is always over flowing, so will be nice not to have the health hazard.

TalkinPeace2 · 30/09/2011 13:17

All the data at your fingertips
www.wrap.org.uk/local_authorities/research_guidance/online_recycling_information_system_oris/mapping.html
the best rate is South Oxfordshire who have done alternate weekly and weekly food for several years

nenevomito · 30/09/2011 13:17

I'd rather not have to wait for another 8 months before my child to see the specialist than have weekly bin collections.

Its just a pile of crap.

gordyslovesheep · 30/09/2011 13:20

UANBU - it's madness - that money could be spent on providing vital services

SardineQueen · 30/09/2011 13:22

"YABU - I voted conservative and this is exactly what I want. I hate the fact my bin is emptied fortnightly at the min - in my little world, this is a lot more important to me than the centre for drug addicts down the road which has just been closed. shrug"

Maybe the untreated drug addicts will now come and burgle your house.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 30/09/2011 13:25

ouryve I wonder if there's a solution to that* - some kind of particular bin. I mean nappies are pretty grim at the best of times, even if you manage to dispose of most of the poo in the loo.

*And I don't mean reusables! They're not a realistic option for everyone.

Maybe people (gov't? parents with babies? MN?) ought to be putting pressure on nappy manufacturers to find this solution. it would be in their interests if people start to move away from disposables because of the whiff.

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 30/09/2011 13:26

mummytotwoboys are you Nadine Dorries?

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 30/09/2011 13:35

mummytotwoboys - will it still be more important to you when the local drug addicts are burgling your house to fund their habits? Joined-up thinking, anyone?

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