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To think that Waverley Council ^shouldn't^ be charging

205 replies

CardyMow · 30/09/2011 07:57

Blue Badge holders to use a disabled parking space??!! Apparently they will get a concession of getting one hour extra for their money. Are Waverley council Tory by any chance??!! AIBU to think that this is well out of order?

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PeachyWhoCannotType · 30/09/2011 15:59

OOh who is suing their blue badge to get free severn crossings then

Seriously the prices of that toll is the ONLY reason we thought about applying for one given we have free parking locally anyway. Abuse is wrong but blimey that bridge is costly- DH used to do it every day almost for work and we live just one side and family other so I dread to think how much they have had off over the years.

Just at times so that one of us can attend an appt for ourselves when other hasn;t been able to get time off (only babysitter other side), plus the only hobby group we found that didn't loathe ds1 or at one extreme put him in a corner and stone him.

Not that it's overly relevant here, just have inbuilt setting.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 30/09/2011 16:00

I have no disabilitity.

I am Shock that anyone would have any objection to the small number of those with disabilities who can easily afford parking getting it free. By this I mean the small number out of the whole population.

Why oh why would you object? In what way does it harm you?

I am truly gobsmacked.

Andrewofgg · 30/09/2011 16:01

Kladd You are a peach!

PeachyWhoCannotType · 30/09/2011 16:05

WRT to affordability

Whilst yes many people can, esp. older disabled people I would hazard a guess just by the simple fact of having had time before disability (assuming age related) the stat IIRC is that people with a disability in the family are around 80% more likely to experience poverty, probably in part related to a very similar stat about divorce of course.

Even when people can work- and most can, in right job, clearly not all- be honest: how many employers is going to choose the person who needs adaptations or you perceive as being likely to need extra time off over the 5689 NT applicants that they will get even for the most crap job ATM?

DS1 wants to be self employed: I applaud that, it's his best chance.

PeachyWhoCannotType · 30/09/2011 16:06

I'm a peach

Kladd is a kladd

Kladdkaka · 30/09/2011 16:08

Peachy, I use my blue badge to get free Severn crossings. Personally I like to go backwards and forwards all day to really make it worthwhile. Stopping off at the motorway services (Chepstow?) for lunch.

PeachyWhoCannotType · 30/09/2011 16:10

Ah you must wave at J25 next time LOL

Mind Mn would hate it here they even give disabled people free museum access (and to everyone else as well but heck why waste a chance of a good fight eh? Wink)

Andrewofgg · 30/09/2011 16:11

Don't joke, Kladd, there probably is someone sad enough to do it . . . There are people in London who spend all the long winter day on the Circle Line - if they have a Freedom Pass it costs nothing and it's warm.

Kladdkaka · 30/09/2011 16:12

Kladd is a kladd

That's some insight you have there Peachy. Kladdkaka is Swedish for sticky chocolate brownie cake, but I didn't know what Kladd meant. Just looked it up, it means 'mess'. Have we met? :o

Kladdkaka · 30/09/2011 16:17

You right Andrew, David Cameron might read this thread and get ideas. :o

PeachyWhoCannotType · 30/09/2011 16:18

LMAO

I had no idea- did occur to me to look it up but thought- don't be so pedantic oops

sorry!

Suppose I could've said you were a kaka? Slang around here for poo

Sevenfold · 30/09/2011 16:19

we get through the dartford tunnel/crossing for free, nothing to do with a BB, but dd is tax exempt.
yay us, all you need is a severely disabled child, you too could go for free

OddBoots · 30/09/2011 16:24

I don't know Waverley town centre so maybe there are none but it seems a bad idea to charge for parking when the blue badge holders could then just park on yellow lines free.

PeachyWhoCannotType · 30/09/2011 17:08

£5.70 a day. £5 frigging seventy.

aliceliddell · 30/09/2011 17:51

So, these Blue Badges. Subsidised out of Council Tax (assessed by value of house) and general taxation (assessed on income). So they're already means tested at the contribution stage. Why do we all have to undergo intrusive tests to see if we're eligible in order to save 2p a week from fraud? Atos have been paid £300 million for the contract to assess us all. Atos is a French IT firm. Spot any contradictions in this system?

Sevenfold · 30/09/2011 18:34

nothing to do with fraud imo, all to do with people being jealous, yes jealous of disabled people

unpa1dcar3r · 01/10/2011 08:07

Well it's surely easy to understand why people are jealous Seven. I mean what's wrong with being jealous of a lifetime of not being able to go do 'normal' everyday stuff without organising it like a sargent major first? Or having people laughing at your kids and making comments behind their hands, or having your kids so frightened by everyday life and being so overwhelmed by it that they poo their little pants and throw themselves down in fear and frustration at not understanding or being misunderstood, or of having to attend one meeting after another, one hospital appt after another, fill one form in after another, make one phone call after another for basic everyday help that non disabled take for granted...and how they miss out on having to explain over and over and over...again to each professional, layman, teacher, medical expert etc etc exactly what the disability entails, how it manifests, how they need to help you deal with it pretty please I'm begging you....

Cant blame them for being jealous really, I mean we're lucky enough to choose to be disabled or have disabled kids who will never leave home, get married, live independently, have children, get a job...

Awww all those poor poor neglected non disabled people, my chart bleeds!

Riveninabingle · 01/10/2011 10:43

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BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead · 01/10/2011 11:25

OP YANBU. I never fail to be amazed at the disabled-bashing from sensible adults on MN!!

ps, hello peachy at J25 from beyond at J26! its a small world!! Grin

TakeThisOneHereForAStart · 01/10/2011 16:00

My friend is 38 and disabled following a series of strokes (her first when she was in her 20's and was beaten by her XH).

She can't walk unaided, has lost the use of one arm, is in constant pain so bad that she didn't even realise that she had broken her ankle following a fall. The pain has become normal to her. She's lost most of the sight from one eye. On a good day she can perhaps shuffle slowly from one side of the room to the other, but she is officially recognised as being wheelchair bound.

She has a mobility scooter which she had to buy herself on a credit card, because although she had her most serious stroke back in 2007 she was only assessed this year for a motorised wheelchair and they are still trying to decide if she is entitled to a funded one. They are debating whether a motorised wheelchair (different to a mobility scooter) would make a significant enough difference to her life. Funding is tight, so there's a lot of demand and being approved is almost like winning the lottery.

Outside of the house the mobility scooter has made a big difference to her life. She obviously can't use it in the house and because her house is only accessible by lots of steps, she has to rely on her DH to get it in and out of the house for her.

Even supposing he did get the mobility scooter out of the house, to get to the bus stop at the bottom of their road (maybe 50 yards from her front door) she would have to drive it over a mile and double back on herself on the next street, because of the steps leading down to it at her end of the street and no slope for her to drive down.

Which would all be pointless because she wouldn't be able to drive it onto the bus once she got to the bus stop and she wouldn't be able to get off it, fold it, carry it on, store it and then drag it back off and set it all up again when she reached town.

She lives 8 miles from the nearest town and would have to drive the scooter down 60MPH country lanes, one of which is notorious for RTA fatalities, down roads with speed bumps, over two level crossings and as she got closer to town over a massive road and bridge that has four lanes in both directions.

They do get benefits, including a mobility car, but the money doesn't go far and with several medical appointments a week they use a lot of petrol etc.

Her DH is her main, full time carer and he has problems of his own that make it hard for him to work.

If a bit of free parking means they are able to get into town a bit more often and she can have a bit of independence by then being able to drive herself around a couple of shops alone, after three and a half years of being at first bed-bound in hospital, then at home but too ill to go out, then able to go out only if someone could push her in her wheelchair, then I think it's worth it and I don't begrudge having to pay to park in the same car park that they have parked in for free when we meet up.

aliceliddell · 01/10/2011 18:20

Take hope your friend is doing OK. Your description of a trip out on public transport is very familiar, likewise the interminable waiting for powered wheelchair. I'm not eligible for one because my kitchen & bathroom wouldn't be accessible with one, so obviously it makes sense to stop me having access to front room, dining room, garden, street, bus, shops too. Obviously. Hmm

Andrewofgg · 01/10/2011 18:24

You know what alice I agree with you so entirely on this thread and disagree with you so entirely on another . . . so there you go, it takes all sort. :o

Andrewofgg · 01/10/2011 18:24

Sorts, damn it!

aliceliddell · 01/10/2011 18:44

Andrew Agree???

TakeThisOneHereForAStart · 01/10/2011 20:30

alice thank you. She's doing better than I think I might be in her situation, she has a fantastic sense of humour and no matter what happens, she can find something to smile about. I feel lucky to have her as my friend.

I think she might have the same result as you with the powered chair, because of the steps to her garden and the street. I think it's a shame that they can make the decision against having one based on one or two "can't do's" when having one could open up so many more "can do now's" for someone.

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