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AIBU to think DP is better off without his family?

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FamilyHeadache · 24/09/2011 17:43

There is a very long back story so i will try to be brief.

Me and DP have had a very strained relationship with his mother since DD was born 19 months ago, part of it has resulted in her not seeing us or DD for just over a year due to her lack of tact and jabs at me & DP, she wants everything her way or no way it all came to a head with her last year and DP told her to stay away from us, she made contact a few times and we also tried to make things better with her so DD could see her Grandma it all failed miserably.

me and DP have had an awful couple of years and in January i had a nervous breakdown as a result of ongoing PND and various other issues, i reached out to MIL and asked her if she could please put all ill feeling aside and be there to support her son, i did this the week before i sectioned myself as i was not coping and felt we needed someone else to help us.

she responded to this request by telling everyone and anyone who would listen that i am an evil person and that she would go through the courts to get our DD to live with her as 'me and DP are not fit parents' (her words). DP had family members who is gets along with quizing him on what was going on and telling him other tales she had told them. This was the final straw as far as me and her were concerned and i will never forgive her for it.

Anyway, around 3 months ago MIL got in touch with DP and asked to come see DD so we said okay lets see what happens, she started coming over once a week and all was going well, then about 2 months ago me and DP hit a rough patch and DP told me he doesn't feel in love with me anymore so we split up and he moved in with a family member whilst we sorted out problems out (going to relate) I stayed in our home with DD, one day out of the blue MIL turned up on the door step when i was home alone, it was odd because she had spoken to DP and he asked her not to come round due to our problems and that i am alone and cant stand her she barged past me at the front door and went into the lounge, she then talked at me for 20 minutes.... telling me how she knew DP would get rid of me eventually and if i did not co-operate with DP seeing DD she would have me 'put away for good' (not sure what this meant, sectioned maybe?) I told her to leave and subsequentley told DP what had gone on. He hit the roof and cut all ties with her and told her to never speak to him again.

Were now back together and happy again, were doing well with relate and both making the changes we need to do in order for our relationship to work properly.

This is what has made me decide DP is better off without his family...

DP's sister is due to get married next year, we had heard about it through other family. DP has always got on with his sister and we have always told her to come over and see DD whenever she likes however since everything has gone on with MIL she has never been or called and never texts us back if we invite her over, she has obviously taken her mums side.

At the weekend we were at DP's aunts (MIL sister) for dinner, she asked us if we have had an invite for the wedding.. nope no invite maybe lost in the post we thought? However upon further investigation, calls to cousins, distant aunts, uncles, other brothers they all have invites but we do not.
DP's cousin took it upon himself to ask DP's sister if she has invited us she replied 'i am not inviting them otherwise mum wont come'

Who the hell doesn't invite their own brother and neice to their wedding?

AIBU to tell DP he doesn't need them and they are just poison?

Sorry its so long didn't want to drip feed! Please ignore any spelling mistakes!

OP posts:
RandomMess · 24/09/2011 22:12

I think that the sister feels she has no choice, please don't hold it against her, your MIL is toxic and she's doing her best to survive.

IMHO yes you are both better off without MIL in your life, I would continue to hold out an olive branch to your SIL, try and understand that your MIL is using her like a pawn in a game. Your poor dh and SIL (and you and your dd), it's horrific and they've been trained to appease MIL as much as possible or face the consequences.

mynewpassion · 25/09/2011 02:21

The wedding is not about you, ok? The SIL wants to have a happy day not marred by fighting with her mother and you or her brother. Simple as that.

Should she have done something else like invite you dinner and explain her decisions? That would've been nice and could've gone a long way in reducing the hurt that your DH feels.

On the issue of is he better off without his family? NO! He might be better off without his mother but not his cousins/aunts/sister. If your DH doesn't want to have contact with his mother, that's fine. His choice. He's "manned up" because he's defended you and have cut off his mother when she has become nasty. When and if he ever wants to reconcile that relationship, he will do so. Again, his choice.

Let him work it out and you just be supportibe.

nothingnatural · 25/09/2011 03:23

I agree with BagofHolly.

OP i do sympathise with your difficult last few years, it sounds awful. BUT it does not sound like your dh is not having a terribly easy time of being married to you. And you are pretty cross with other posters, are you this touchy in real life?

OK, your mil sounds like a nasty piece of work, but yabu if you think you can get your dh to dump his family for your benefit. And perhaps he did ruin your mils life, I really don't know.

Can your dh talk to his sister, not with a view to being invited to the wedding but in order to smooth out any wrinkles in their relationship? I would feel dreadful if I had to choose between inviting a difficult mum and my brother to my wedding.

Bootcamp · 25/09/2011 09:24

Hope your ok op
Xxx

spiderpig8 · 25/09/2011 10:06

you say that you cut your MIL off and wouldn't let your DD have any contact with MIL for most of her life, then when you were desperate expected her to be there hit a crisis you expected her to suddenly be there to support you all.
Then you started letting her access your DD than you cut it off again.
You can't expect people in your life to switch their feelings on and off at your whim.
I am guesssing this comment about having you sectioned was not entirely unprovoked, probably said in the middle of a blazing row.
You have had a rough time of it, for sure but you shouldn't make your DP have to side with you or his family.It's not fair on him.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 25/09/2011 10:17

I'm really surprised that the sister has taken her mums side. I know she's caught in the middle but she must be able to see what her mum is like. She's probably choosing the easier option.

It's not surprising that you're not invited to the wedding though, did you really think you would be seeing as his sister ignores his calls? It's very sad that he has effectively lost his sister as well but I don't see what you can do about that.

The mum sounds evil!

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 25/09/2011 10:19

but yabu if you think you can get your dh to dump his family for your benefit

I don't understand why people are saying things like that when your DH has already made his decision to do this.

As for "high maintenance" Shock Love that complete ignorance that come with MH issues.

Champagnevanity · 25/09/2011 10:20

IMO Nobody needs family like that, and family don't do things like that.

However its your partners family, and his place to decide what he does. But you can choose to stay away and have nothing to do with them.

sunhat · 25/09/2011 10:28

Amen to Champagne's post.

OP ignore posters who are ignorant and malicious - they aint worth your time.

diddl · 25/09/2011 10:33

"you say that you cut your MIL off and wouldn't let your DD have any contact with MIL for most of her life, then when you were desperate expected her to be there hit a crisis you expected her to suddenly be there to support you all.
Then you started letting her access your DD than you cut it off again."

If that´s how the sister views it then there´s no wondr that she has taken her mum´s side really, is there?

BagofHolly · 25/09/2011 13:49

"As for "high maintenance" Love that complete ignorance that come with MH issues"

Why are YOU linking being high maintenance with mental health issues? That may or may not be the case! FWIW I have a thorough understanding and experience of how severe mental health issues can affect a family, both on a personal and professional level. And there's nothing "ignorant" about suggesting that those who have the grave misfortune to suffer with MH problems, might be difficult to deal with, and manage relationships with. Sadly, it often goes with the territory.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 25/09/2011 14:23

BagofHolly You said this . . . "Honestly? You sound spectacularly high maintenance and very difficult" . . . about a woman who has just recovered from being mentally ill!

YOU are the one that said it, YOU made the connection so don't you fucking dare say it was me. If you wanted to comment on the fact that the OP may of been difficult to deal with due to her MH you should have said so, rather then saying something that frankly comes across as nasty, ignorant and actually makes me pretty disgusted.

BagofHolly · 25/09/2011 15:11

WhoseGotMyEyebrows, if you read my post I said "possibly through no fault of your own." So therefore NOT making a direct causal relationship with being difficult AND having mental health issues. A person can quite easily be one without the other.

However, in the lost where you said " As for "high maintenance" Love that complete ignorance that come with MH issues." YOU are concluding that I'm making a direct relationship between being high maintenance and having mental health issues. I wasn't. That may or may not be the case. And someone having a different opinion to you or the OP doesn't make them "nasty" or ignorant. Goodness me, you sound almost as touchy as the OP.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 25/09/2011 18:25

BagofHolly Who in their right mind would describe someone with MH issues as "spectacularly high maintenance and very difficult"? Whether you say it's "possibly" (how accepting of you Hmm) no fault of her own is neither here nor there.

Someone like yourself who has no understanding of MH and has no wish to understand has no place making such a judgement on the OP. I wouldn't post on subjects of which I know fuck all about and neither should anyone IMO.

It's different if someone is wanting to learn but you clearly are not. If you were, you wouldn't say such a thing and then call the OP "touchy" for getting upset about it!

BagofHolly · 25/09/2011 20:33

I typed out a long reply and included some key points from my CV which involves over 20 years of dealing with mental health issues, mainly in a professional capacity but sadly more recently with a relative. And then realised I dont have to justify myself to you for having a different opinion.
Don't assume that just because someone disagrees with you that they dint know what they're on about. And as for having "no place" to make a judgement, this is AIBU, on an open Internet site so perhaps it's wise to be prepared to be disagreed with, or read opinions which you might personally find uncomfortable.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 26/09/2011 11:34

You're a silly person BOH and I find it incredibly scary that you work in this area, INCREDIBLY scary! God help us all!

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 26/09/2011 12:11

BagofHolly Wow, I just came across a post of yours on another thread where you referred to a woman as being "demented"! I read it, thought it sounded like you and it was! I almost didn't believe it at first but of course it made sense. So do you really work in this area? Frankly I think you need reporting!

MaryPoppinsMagic · 26/09/2011 13:37

I've reported bagofholly for comments on this thread and others.

I think that they are obviously out to cause trouble and upset to people.

No wonder the op has not returned with comments like this!

MaryPoppinsMagic · 26/09/2011 13:37

I've reported bagofholly for comments on this thread and others.

I think that they are obviously out to cause trouble and upset to people.

No wonder the op has not returned with comments like this!

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 26/09/2011 14:01

Mary Glad I'm not the only one who thought they were shocking. I agree about the OP, it's awful that she had that reaction.

BagofHolly · 26/09/2011 15:41

" Wow, I just came across a post of yours on another thread where you referred to a woman as being "demented"! I read it, thought it sounded like you and it was! I almost didn't believe it at first but of course it made sense. So do you really work in this area? Frankly I think you need reporting!"

Go ahead, feel free to report: Here's the post for those who don't have the time or interest to stalk me:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1307199-AIBU-to-be-thoroughly-pissed-off-by-DHs-stupidity?pg=4

And an excerpt from Webster's Dictionery:
"2. Driven to behave irrationally due to anger, distress, or excitement."

BagofHolly · 26/09/2011 15:44

I assume youve reported the posts of those who have agreed with me.

fit2drop · 26/09/2011 16:09

oookaaayyyyy

back to OP

Hope you are ok .

MIL sounds a complete and utter twat, but your SIL is between a rock amd a hard place.I feel quite sorry for her.

She will just want a wedding to go perfectly with no hidden undercurrant.
Take the higher ground, send her a lovely card, wishing her a happy future and that you hope you can catch up soon .

Yes its hard but your immediate family and your health are more important.
Its one day, arrange to do something really nice that day with your DH and dc

Well done on working through all your difficulties and working out whats important.

Good Luck.

BoH , I too work in MH but found your post very judgemental. Not being judgemental is one of the first things you learn when dealing with someone with MH issues.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 27/09/2011 12:28

BagofHolly Wow picked out the best bits of that definition didn't you. How about this one . . .

Afflicted with or exhibiting irrationality and mental unsoundness: brainsick, crazy, daft, disordered, distraught, dotty, insane, lunatic, mad, maniac, maniacal, mentally ill, moonstruck, off, touched, unbalanced, unsound, wrong. Informal bonkers, cracked, daffy, gaga, loony. Slang bananas, batty, buggy, cuckoo, fruity, loco, nuts, nutty, screwy, wacky. Chiefly British crackers. Law non compos mentis. Idioms: around the bend, crazy as a loon, mad as a hatter, not all there, nutty as a fruitcake, offout ofone's head, off one's rocker, of unsound mind, out of one's mind, sick in the head, stark raving mad. See sane/insane.

WhoseGotMyEyebrows · 27/09/2011 12:32

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