To think this children's drink is just a bad idea

[TheSkiingGardener]

I'm not sure I know exactly what my objections are, but this drink just seems such a bad idea.

Btw pizzas, burgers and chips is not bad thing too, as long as its part of a healthy diet. You can make them at home too.

atyourcervix: have you seen a nutritionist (not a dietician, and I realise that mention of a nutritionist might make your teeth itch , it does for many people)

many people with ASD (sorry, I ahve assumed it is your dd with AS that you are meaning) have difficulties with foods/toleration of foods. there are things that can be done to help - both with the tolerating perspective, and with the rigidity/ishoos side.

It's the fact one of their testimonials says: ?This is the easiest way to make sure your children get all their nutritional needs.?

Really? So you could feed your children this milkshake thing and nothing else and they wouldn't end up with malnutrition? I know it's only a quote from a parenting magazine, but posting it on their website like that makes it seem like an actual scientific claim. Would probably be banned here under that Gillian McKeith act thing.

It sounds like this weird Juice Plus stuff that one of XP's clients was evangelical about. This guy (not the client, the inventor) couldn't get his kids to eat veg, or take supplements, so he dehydrated the vegetables or distilled their essence or something, anyway, and made all the goodness from the fruit and vegetables into a powder, which you can take in capsules or drink in orange juice, and marketed it as this revolutionary thing. The client also insisted with much seriousness that microwaves are bad because they make the food molecules forget that they are that particular food, and so destroy all the nutrients inside. (But apparently this intensive vegetable-powdering process doesn't? )

I honestly do not understand why people get so worked up about the C word. It tastes good, it is a flavour that almost everyone likes..

Chocolate is not bad for you. Sugar, in moderation is not bad for anyone either..

As a child I was never denied sweets or chocolate, and there was certainly never any need for it to be used as a bribery tool. I probably did have some form of chocolate daily. My dad was a chocaholic himself and had to have his daily "fix" each evening..

silverfrog juice only count for 1 of 5 a day no matter how many you have, because of the fibre issue.

Smoothies made with actual crushed whole fruit (minus seeds/skin of course) can count for more because it is all of the fruit and does contain the fibre, so for example if you made a milkshake with a whole banana mashed up in it that would count just as much as a banana eaten.

Although to be fair, I don't object to the product in general. Just object to the idea that it completely meets nutritional needs, since it clearly doesn't. And it seems to be selling itself on the idea that "Now you don't need to go through all the complicated faff of getting your children to eat vegetables and fruit!" when it would be best if parents tried more than one method.

you can make this at home anyway, put a load of fruit in a blender wizz it up and add some choco Nesquick or whatever. I would rather my dd drunk this, than the fizzy crap out there. unfortunately dd hates the texture of smoothies so there is no chance she would drink this.

no we haven't. maybe/probably should. saw a dietitian about 6 years ago who told hr to eat vegetables. unsurprisingly that didn't work.

Trillian - I thought I read something re: the smushing up process partially destroying the fibre in a bad way

drinking smoothies all the time has been thought to contribute to the general over-weight/obesity issues, too, hasn't it? as they are so full of (admittedly good, but still there nonetheless) sugars, and people drink them as they would water, and don't take account of the calorie content.

It's ok as a supplement

However, I'm naturally suspicious of any thing that's marketed with the words "Dear friend"

It reminds me instantly of a scam.

Isn't ok to drink chocolate every day, then?

Nothing wrong with pizzas and burgers either, if the ingredients are reasonable.

People have a odd, hair-shirted idea of a healthy diet omo.

It's one of todays Groupon things Trillain (and anyone else who wants to buy it on a deal)

Ok, maybe I hadn't thought about kids with long term eating issues around fruit and veg. I still think it's a bad principal to set though unless you have tried everything else you can think of to get them eating a balanced diet.

The implication in the website is that her daughter was not eating healthily home-made burgers, chips and pizzas though, and that she would eat nothing else. The implication was that her diet was mainly junk food.

I think if we're referring to children who do have food/eating issues, any way to get vitamins into them is good. BUT, for a fussy child who just picks for no real reason (mine, for example - but she's only picky once or twice a fortnight, and gets nothing else if she refuses to eat), I would never use it.

All four of my DC have picked and whinged about one thing or another on the plate in front of them over the years and I have never had the time, patience or inclination to pander to them.

Groupon and the like often have ridiculous "healthfood" shite, don't they?

No, I don't want acai slimming berries.

No, I don't want a magical plastic wristband.

I think OK as a supplement-but biting/chewing/crunching food are all good things to do rather than just drinking?

I've given my DD vitamins when she is going through a faddy not eating veg phase. This is no different. She used to be a great eater, and now I worry and its a battle. Anything that makes it less of a battle OK by me.

Sounds disgusting, and also I thought that regardless of how much fresh juice you drink you only get one of your five a day because the fibrous nutrients are removed in the juicing process.

Isabella sounds a weeny bit spoilt TBH.

NBU in anyway. The choc things doesn't bother me, the health claims. I agree if better than nothing but its still far from a good option

Also

From the NHS 5 a Day website

Q: Do juices and smoothies count?
A: One 150ml glass of unsweetened 100% fruit or vegetable juice can count as a portion. But only one glass counts, further glasses of juice don?t count toward your total 5 A DAY portions.

One smoothie containing all the edible pulped fruit or vegetable may count as more than one 5 A DAY portion, but this depends on the quantity of fruits or vegetables and/or juice used, as well as how the smoothie has been made.

For a single smoothie to qualify as being two portions, it must contain either:

at least 80g of one variety of whole fruit and/or vegetable and at least 150ml of a different variety of 100% fruit and/or vegetable juice, or 
a minimum of 80g of one variety of whole fruit and/or vegetable and at least 80g of another variety of whole fruit and/or vegetable.

Smoothies can only count as a maximum of two of your 5 A DAY, however much you drink.