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To think that 'Strawman' thing is a load of tosh? or is there some truth in it?

55 replies

AmberLeaf · 23/09/2011 18:11

Have seen links and references to 'Strawman' posted on Facebook and other forums.

Meet your Strawman

So, is it nonsense or is there any truth in it?

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BeerTricksPotter · 23/09/2011 19:14

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NotQuiteCockney · 23/09/2011 20:48

I got what you were doing, Beer.

I am choosing to see it as a parody. Taking it seriously just isn't viable.

Georgimama · 23/09/2011 20:59

Where on earth did you stumble across that madness? I bet that site has had more hits this evening than in the last year.

"The Labour Party is a commercial company trading under the name Allister (sic) Darling?" Nutter.

Georgimama · 23/09/2011 21:01

And this moron doesn't seem to understand anything about contractual law, although he clearly thinks he knows a lot.

Dawndonna · 23/09/2011 21:11

Lordy me, a grammatical nightmare.
Tis indeed a load of old codswallop.

Voidka · 23/09/2011 21:18

All Bollocks.

Looks like something some of the weirdos on the MSE boards would believe.

piprabbit · 23/09/2011 21:26

I love the way that Mumsnet opens little windows on some bizarre imaginings beliefs.

QueenOfFeckingEverything · 23/09/2011 21:26

I know of some people who believe all this stuff, and so didnt register their baby's birth etc.

But then, their baby is called Hooligan, so I'm not sure I can take anything they say or do very seriously...

UsingPredominantlyTeaspoons · 23/09/2011 21:30

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QueenOfFeckingEverything · 23/09/2011 21:34

Well, if you are that paranoid bothered, you don't seek 'official' medical attention during pregnancy or birth.

kingbeat23 · 23/09/2011 21:35

I have had "friends" who have tried this type of legal/lawful/bollocks way of trying to deal with the police in this matter.

They got whalloped over the head by an irate copper for thier trouble and still charged...

Complete and total bulls bollocks.

QueenOfFeckingEverything · 23/09/2011 21:36

And as for what happens - well, nothing, it appears, unless it gets discovered in which case presumably the parents are prosecuted. But you can't claim CB or similar, or send them to school, or any of the other things most people take for granted.

MagicFingerGoesPop · 23/09/2011 21:37

I read it, lots of it but not all, and I STILL Dont understand what a strawman is! Confused But basically he is saying we dont actually exist so dont have to pay anything for anything? Like sign a mortgage and then move in and then go, nope, that wasnt me, it was a piece of straw??? Confused Confused

PelvicFloorsOfSteel · 23/09/2011 21:48

I didn't read the whole thing as it's not written in a very readable style but it strikes me as bollocks and I don't think you'd get very far if you tried using it as a reason not to pay your mortgage.

NotJustKangaskhan · 23/09/2011 21:52

It sounds like something that was going on in the States a few years back that a family member of mine got into - basically they all handed in their Social Security cards (kinda like an NI card, you need it to get benefits and pensions) under the belief that it meant they wouldn't have to pay taxes anymore since they weren't going to collect anything.

The literature/explanation were about as sensible and the only legal bits that were accurate were only accurate for very few communities that literally take nothing and so were excepted (Amish communities, for example, are typically exempted).

Panzee · 23/09/2011 21:55

Seven shades of bonkers.

SquongebobSparepants · 23/09/2011 22:21

hahahaha, thanks, I needed a good laugh!

AmberLeaf · 23/09/2011 22:31

Im glad its not just me that thinks its bonkers then!

The registering a babies birth is the one that struck me...what do they think will happen when that child needs an education? yes you can homeschool etc but seriously?

The thing about 'ownership' of your child, social services are more likely to be interested in you if you dont register your childs birth~! isnt it against the law to not do so within 6 weeks of birth anyway?

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startwig1982 · 23/09/2011 22:37

Started reading it, got confused and bored, stopped reading it. Just someone having a rant, surely. Hmm

AmberLeaf · 23/09/2011 22:43

startwig, this has a big following!

Ive seen people ranting posting about it on facebook for a while now, typical conspiracy theorists.

They really believe it.

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NotADudeExactly · 24/09/2011 00:14

So from what I understand you and I and the rest of the world can essentially get away with pretty much anything on the basis of ...

WORD GAMES!

Off to tell my landlord. After that I'm firing my solicitor because I don't need her any more either!

scottishmummy · 24/09/2011 00:17

rambling persecutory nonsense,is it fathers for justice?

DilysPrice · 24/09/2011 00:23

Sounds like something an acquaintance of mine was taken by a couple of years ago. She's nice, but somewhat flaky, and she was told in the kindest terms by our legally qualified friends that it was pure fruitloopery.

Kladdkaka · 24/09/2011 00:26

No wonder the planets resources are being depleted. The author of that has all the tin foil on his head.

ZonkedOut · 24/09/2011 05:15

So apparently, if you take out a loan, the bank create the money out of thin air so if you default on the loan, it doesn't cost them anything. And they will write it off because they can't prove that you have a legal contract anyway.

Utter bollocks, and if things really worked like that, the whole system would have fallen apart years ago.