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To argue with the 'psychic' on netmums? (To the point of maybe getting banned! hee hee)

67 replies

acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 18:34

Someone has just offered £25 for a 'reading with a meaning'. I know I am pre-menstrual, but have continually argued against her. I would love to believe, but also feel that vulnerable peole believe it when told "You are at a crossroads... You see two ways ahead.... Someone has hurt you... I see you sitting at a table... You are planning a trip! I mean PLEASE!!!!!!

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iklboo · 21/09/2011 19:22

I wouldn't was a sidhe. They can be very touchy can the sidhe.

iklboo · 21/09/2011 19:22

wash even

Anniegetyourgun · 21/09/2011 19:23

Gaelic spellchecker Belle? Grin

Last psychic my dad saw told him he would not die in the country of his birth. Well they got that one wrong. However he was not really in the position to demand a refund.

NessaRose · 21/09/2011 19:23

Linky please I will come and back you up.

Inertia · 21/09/2011 19:27

I see you in a shop , buying cardigans. And tights.

Over the next six months you will eat soup, or perhaps a stew.

Do you know somebody with the letter E in their name? They are asking me to tell you to avoid investing in sub-prime mortgages and Icelandic banks.

acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 19:30

Hi have you ever fancied having a psychic reading done if so contact ann on 07943926211 for a reading with meaning!!
andrea says: Hi there i have had readings with ann before she always makes me feel very comfortable the information she provided blew me away she was amazing. Highly recommend check out her facebook page (readings with meaning) for feedback.
21st September, 2011

Tracey says: Hi ann,where do you do the readings and how much do you charge.I have had readings before and its been well over a year since i had my last one.thanks tracey
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Ann, can you explain how you are psychic? I would love to believe, but think that there are some people who have no qualms in exploiting vulnerable people. If you can prove me wrong, then please except my apologies, but what do you mean by a reading with a meaning?
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi tracey I live in whitchurch area but will travel local areas. I charge £25 40-60 mins give me a call if you are interested. Thanks ann
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Really Tracey, that is a lot of money to pay out to a stranger claiming to have psychic powers. Please take on board that my questions have been ignored. £25 can get you a nice haircut, new dress, meal out. Please don't waste it on unsubstantiated crap!
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi kate readings with meaning simply means me connecting with your loved ones who have passed. I am a clarivoyant medium for more detailed info please give me a call. Thanks ann
21st September, 2011

Kate says: If you can do this then please contact the James Randy Foundation. There is a million dollar prize for anyone who can prove such talents. As I said before, I would love to believe, but if I had such a talent I wouldn't be charging that amount. I am all for netmums trying to earn a living, but please...

21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi kate I appreciate everyone has their own beliefs & you are entitled to your opinion im sorry you feel the way you do but I take my work very seriously & have helped alot of people in my time. I Understand that there are fakes out there but I can assure you I am not one of them. If you ever change your mind give me a call. Thanks ann
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Ann, I hate to have a go at anyone. I do, however feel that vulnerable people can be sucked into this. If you have watched Derren Brown he shows clearly how people can do a 'cold reading' successfully. It isn't psychic powers. Ann, please explain how you do this.
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Kate i am happy to explain the best way I can so please give me a call too much to try & explain on here!!
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Ann, it would be really nice for you to explain where all can see. I'm sure that this would give potential customers more faith in you...
21st September, 2011

andrea says: Can i join the debate & just say if you believe & want a reading with ann give her a call dont judge someone without trying it out first I can defo vouch for her told me things noone else knows!! But make your own mind up about her.
21st September, 2011

Charlotte says: Kate, you are being harassing. Stop it. You've made your point. Besides, Derren Brown himself is a moron with no talent. He doesn't explain anything, he's full of secrecy himself.
I am a believer and maybe Ann does have a talent, who knows but your attitude is rude.

Ann - Please take no notice. I also believe that if you have the gift you don't charge for it. No offence! I hope you continue to help others.
21st September, 2011

Kate says: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xswt8B8-UTM
21st September, 2011

Kate says: I am nearly 40 and have spent most of my life wanting to believe. I have been to many 'reputable' readers and what has been said could apply to anyone. I have often heard "You are at a cross-roads, there are changes going on,someone has hurt you, your not sure which direction to turn. Once, when the reader was clearly failing, she said "You are going on holiday..." It was July! But I wasn't. She clawed her way back with"someone you know is going on holiday". Please listen to Derren Brown. And Ann, if you would be prepared to give me a free reading which I believed (because I refuse to pay £25) I would happily come back on here and eat my words, with apologies left right and centre. I presume that my offer will not be accepted.
And no, I am not being rude, I am trying to help vulnerable people think twice before handing over money to someone who can talk to the dead. Don't you think the dead would have more interesting things to say than "Look in the bottom of the wardrobe... or the letter J is important? Please look after yourselves and ask why?
21st September, 2011

gemma says: Jesus! Chill out! Point made love! :)
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Thanks Gemma, that was really helpful ;)
Some things are worth having an opinion about... or shall we just let people get sucked in? You didn't really discuss.
21st September, 2011

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acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 19:31

oops, linked a bit too much!

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DeWe · 21/09/2011 19:33

Ask her to predict your next message?

When the mystic shop in the village closed down after only a couple of months, dm was very tempted to put a big sign up: "Closed due to unforseen circumstances".

acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 19:35

I am now so unpopular on netmums! Apparently,if there is a niche I should just let it go!

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 19:39

some folks are gullible and believe any ole shit
like homoeopathy,psychics,wise cats
fact is some folks willl willingly pay for any ole woo-hoo and no amount of pragmatic talking to them will shift their position

stressheaderic · 21/09/2011 19:51

Netmums is not the place for reasoned argument and firm questioning. All your efforts will only lead to a "ok i think weve got the msg lol".

YANBU, anyway.
Load of old tripe - friend of mine saw one last year, in exchange for 45 smackers. He knew her date of birth and saw no wedding ring and nice car outside the window. Told her she was at a crossroads in her life, about to cross an important milestone and meet 'someone special'. Also said she was doing well in her career. She was blown away by this terrific insight. The other 28 minutes were ego-stroking and flattery.

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 19:55

mn has its own woo-hoo believers too. cranial manipulation for colic and tap water and placebo for stress.and they wont be told either.only difference is they dont say hun or lol

acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 19:57

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Ann says: Hi have you ever fancied having a psychic reading done if so contact ann on 07943926211 for a reading with meaning!!
andrea says: Hi there i have had readings with ann before she always makes me feel very comfortable the information she provided blew me away she was amazing. Highly recommend check out her facebook page (readings with meaning) for feedback.
21st September, 2011

Tracey says: Hi ann,where do you do the readings and how much do you charge.I have had readings before and its been well over a year since i had my last one.thanks tracey
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Ann, can you explain how you are psychic? I would love to believe, but think that there are some people who have no qualms in exploiting vulnerable people. If you can prove me wrong, then please except my apologies, but what do you mean by a reading with a meaning?
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi tracey I live in whitchurch area but will travel local areas. I charge £25 40-60 mins give me a call if you are interested. Thanks ann
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Really Tracey, that is a lot of money to pay out to a stranger claiming to have psychic powers. Please take on board that my questions have been ignored. £25 can get you a nice haircut, new dress, meal out. Please don't waste it on unsubstantiated crap!
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi kate readings with meaning simply means me connecting with your loved ones who have passed. I am a clarivoyant medium for more detailed info please give me a call. Thanks ann
21st September, 2011

Kate says: If you can do this then please contact the James Randy Foundation. There is a million dollar prize for anyone who can prove such talents. As I said before, I would love to believe, but if I had such a talent I wouldn't be charging that amount. I am all for netmums trying to earn a living, but please...

21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi kate I appreciate everyone has their own beliefs & you are entitled to your opinion im sorry you feel the way you do but I take my work very seriously & have helped alot of people in my time. I Understand that there are fakes out there but I can assure you I am not one of them. If you ever change your mind give me a call. Thanks ann
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Ann, I hate to have a go at anyone. I do, however feel that vulnerable people can be sucked into this. If you have watched Derren Brown he shows clearly how people can do a 'cold reading' successfully. It isn't psychic powers. Ann, please explain how you do this.
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Kate i am happy to explain the best way I can so please give me a call too much to try & explain on here!!
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Ann, it would be really nice for you to explain where all can see. I'm sure that this would give potential customers more faith in you...
21st September, 2011

andrea says: Can i join the debate & just say if you believe & want a reading with ann give her a call dont judge someone without trying it out first I can defo vouch for her told me things noone else knows!! But make your own mind up about her.
21st September, 2011

Charlotte says: Kate, you are being harassing. Stop it. You've made your point. Besides, Derren Brown himself is a moron with no talent. He doesn't explain anything, he's full of secrecy himself.
I am a believer and maybe Ann does have a talent, who knows but your attitude is rude.

Ann - Please take no notice. I also believe that if you have the gift you don't charge for it. No offence! I hope you continue to help others.
21st September, 2011

Kate says: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xswt8B8-UTM
21st September, 2011

Kate says: I am nearly 40 and have spent most of my life wanting to believe. I have been to many 'reputable' readers and what has been said could apply to anyone. I have often heard "You are at a cross-roads, there are changes going on,someone has hurt you, your not sure which direction to turn. Once, when the reader was clearly failing, she said "You are going on holiday..." It was July! But I wasn't. She clawed her way back with"someone you know is going on holiday". Please listen to Derren Brown. And Ann, if you would be prepared to give me a free reading which I believed (because I refuse to pay £25) I would happily come back on here and eat my words, with apologies left right and centre. I presume that my offer will not be accepted.
And no, I am not being rude, I am trying to help vulnerable people think twice before handing over money to someone who can talk to the dead. Don't you think the dead would have more interesting things to say than "Look in the bottom of the wardrobe... or the letter J is important? Please look after yourselves and ask why?
21st September, 2011

gemma says: Jesus! Chill out! Point made love! :)
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Thanks Gemma, that was really helpful ;)
Some things are worth having an opinion about... or shall we just let people get sucked in? You didn't really discuss.
21st September, 2011

Nuala says: Hi Ann, I am having a ladies night on 12th November. i AM LOOKING FOR A psychic to attend as I have a lot of ladies who are interested. Would you like a table?

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21st September, 2011

gemma says: You're welcome :) my opinion is that I do believe it this stuff but would not get a reading because I'd rather not know. If you don't agree with it then don't get a reading, end of! No need for horrible remarks for someone who's offering people a service that they may want.
21st September, 2011

Julie says: I have to say I agree with Kate and think it's absolute nonsense..............however, if someone takes comfort from it then does it really matter??

Some people think religion is a load of clap trap yet some find strength and comfort in it - who's to say either is right and besides, it's irrelevant if it helps someone??
21st September, 2011

Kate says: I agree Julie, but for £25 per hour...?
21st September, 2011

Kate says: And Nuala, I wish you every luck in the world in finding a 'psychic' for your reputable business evening. I'm sure your clients will be thrilled with their advice.
It's great if it is for a bit of fun, but what about those who take it all on board? Is that right? What qualifications will your 'psychic' have. Would you employ a novice hairdresser? No, of course not. You have steadily built up a worthwhile business, and I commend you for that. You have achieved lots. I guess I am alone in sticking up for the vulnerable and needy... because, let's face it, not many happy, sorted people turn to psychics for advice. I was hoping for some valid other opinions but...
21st September, 2011

Julie says: LOL Kate. I kind of think if people want to waste/spend that then that's their business and not mine - I'm sure I spend money on things they would consider a waste. Funny how no one picked up on the post re. trampoline exercise the other day though - that was £25 per hour (I think) or £40 for a group.........why is a group more expensive when it didn't last any longer?? Also, the person running the sessions doesn't have overheads apart from travelling expenses! Again, good luck to them and if people want to pay it then great.............personally I wouldn't.

Also, lots of people smoke or drink when stressed, probably running up a bill of more than £25 - is that any better??

Yes, I agree it's a nonsense and can't believe people are sucked in, but who's to say I'm right??
21st September, 2011

Kate says: Julie, but they are buying what they know they are buying, not some made up . If I had bought a trampoline, and I couldn't bounce, I would also complain! Anyway, you seem quite rational, and my argument is not with you ;)x
And netmums moderators, do you not need to verify business claims?
21st September, 2011

Ann says: Hi again Kate I dont have a problem giving you a free reading as I would love to prove you wrong but dont think it would benefit either of us as you dont believe & I think you would still say it was a load of rubbish as you obviously have issues judging by youre responses. I have been doing this for many years without charging but as I have progressed it has meant me leaving my job & doing this full time & like eveyone else I have bills to pay. This is my last response to you as I dont feel that I have to explain myself to you. I hope you find peace in your life thanks again ann

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 20:00

ease up on the cut&paste you've made your point
if i wanted to read netmum id join it
now you're being wee bit too gloaty and i is so very much more cleverer than the huns

beatrixkitto · 21/09/2011 20:01

That's you told then!

usualsuspect · 21/09/2011 20:02

Cant you argue on nm? ,I don't give a toss what goes on there tbh

bit pathetic to drag it onto MN

Pagwatch · 21/09/2011 20:02

Yanbu to argue your pov on netmums

Yabu to drag it on to here.

scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 20:03

stop dragging detritus from nethuns to mn
go fight your battles there.not here

acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 20:04

oh but scottishmummy, i am cross, and i was hoping for some understanding on here. Didn't mean to be gloaty at all, just amazed that noone shares my view on there and I am the wicked witch of the west! And sorry bout the excess cut n paste. I do see your point! ;)

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acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 20:05

ok sorry...

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 20:05

you are gloating and self congratulatory and fighting with fickos is hardly becoming,is it?

beatrixkitto · 21/09/2011 20:07

Fickos?

acmeexplosives · 21/09/2011 20:07

but no, I was not self congratulatory, just pointing out pro psychic arguments in despair.

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scottishmummy · 21/09/2011 20:10

you are self congratulating self on your perceived superior stance and their daftness.hence all the c&p heres what they said,ta-dah i said...

GingerWrath · 21/09/2011 20:13

OP when people asked for a link, they wanted what is in your address bar and not a copy and paste, so they can see it for themselves.