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CSA when changed to CMEC

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sand12 · 17/09/2011 17:45

Thank god the CSA is going to change 2012 (CMEC) the sooner the better! my ex hides his commission which more than doubles his salary 2012 is the year when I'll get what i'm entitled to CMEC will get gross salary from DWP and you will get what you are entitled too. Is their any other PWC out their in the same situation?

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youarekidding · 18/09/2011 12:19

Thanks andrew I'm not sure about his debt, if any. I know he had some in Spain and they are the toughest re maintenence but he had to pay the bank first leaving nothing for DS maintenence. They do take money from NRP account if they miss payments so I think they are a bit like CMEC in that respect - just free! Well, you pay a lawyer to set it up and if/when it goes to court the NRP is also ordered to pay half up to all the costs depending on how much they are making at attempt to escape paying.

However Germany has a married couples tax rate (he really has to stop telling me stuff!), so he will pay less tax now, therefore technically he should have a higher income. I know his DW income doesn't count. In fact she is lovely and would probably be more willing to pay then him.

GeneralCustardsHardHat · 18/09/2011 12:24

CSA are totally shit. My ex has avoided paying for nearly a year now and when I rang the CSA they had been contacting his company using his mothers maiden name, then wondered why they hadn't heard of him. So last time i spoke to them I gave them the full and correct spelling of his name (again for the umpteenth time) and told them all his personal information is on google because the muppet has a linked in account.

"oh i'm sorry we don't have internet access here so we wouldn't have been able to find that!"

Surely it's not rocket science for them to do a quick google of these feckless twatheads?

Anyway, this new system, hows it work with regards paying them then? Does it come out of the maintenence directly or do they take the fees from the twathead on top of the maintenence? Seems unfair to penalise the kids, again!

hairylights · 18/09/2011 12:31

Yanbu. Both parents should financially support their children.

It's not your entitlement it's your children's.

Andrewofgg · 18/09/2011 17:24

youarekidding Anywhere where they can seize money direct from his bank you can take it as read that if he is overdrawn the bank can refuse until he is in credit - and the moment he is in credit he can close the account and open another of which you and CSA/CMEC will know nothing. Certainly in the UK there is no central register of bank accounts.

As for your successor I fear I was being cynical - if he has kids by her and splits up then lovely as she is she will be trying to extract money from the same pot. That will make two of you, both lovely and with the same problem.

GeneralCustardsHardHat I don't know how many men with your ex's forename and surname there are in the UK. But if CSA googled and then got the wrong one imagine the consequences in costs (without benefit to you). And if CMEC googled the name, used its powers and raided the wrong one's bank account he would take them to the cleaners - and rightly so. There are female NRPs - so imagine if that happened to you. CSA are dead right not to go googling, even if using ex's mother's maiden name was clueless in the extreme.

youarekidding · 18/09/2011 17:36

andrew they don't have kids yet and have only been married a month. They have been together for 5 years. So I guess that might be one thing I don't have to worry about for a while!

Andrewofgg · 18/09/2011 17:56

youarekidding Very good luck to you in any event. I know I can sound harsh at times but as a matter of fact much of what I read on this forum makes me bloody embarrassed for my own gender!

splashymcsplash · 18/09/2011 23:41

notherday men do not always stay the person you fell for.

I hate how single parents are seen as irresponsible and feckless by some people. I was married when my dd was conceived, my h then turned into an absolute monster when I refused to have an abortion. I never saw that coming. I chose my dd over him, but will never regret that decision as he clearly was not worth staying with.

Sorry I know this is a little off topic.

OP hope you find a solution.

Andrewofgg · 19/09/2011 07:03

^notherday men do not always stay the person you fell for.

As a matter of fact splashymcsplash neither do women, and that is a matter of professional not personal observation.

Meglet · 19/09/2011 07:21

Charging for the CSA is a fucking insane idea.

Basically anyone with the misfortune to have an abusive ex-parter who won't support their children in any other way would then be worse off financially.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the tories would like to kill off single parents.

splashymcsplash · 19/09/2011 07:36

Andrew I don't doubt that. For some reason it seems only the mothers are criticised though. At least far more than absent fathers.

Andrewofgg · 19/09/2011 07:54

Not by me splashy.

Meglet it was the Tories who introduced the CSA. Before then NRPs were on their own. It may be imperfect but it was an improvement. That was twenty years ago and if you were a PWC then the DCs in question have grown up, so today's PWCs have never experienced the old regime.

LunarRose · 26/09/2011 14:39

Hi can I ask people where they've found out the info about CMEC, I cannot find out anything but if the percentages above are right my kids stand to benefit significantly from the change!
TIA

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