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to think that the school logo is not very inclusive?

187 replies

weakestlink · 04/09/2011 13:23

We have been looking at all the local primary schools as DS2 may be on the Autistic Spectrum and he may not get all the support he needs at the school we originally chose for him.

We have found a really lovely primary for him which has a really positive attitude to SEN and has a Good Ofsted report as well.

BUT DH is really not keen on the schools logo which appears everywhere, in colour, including on sweatshirts, polo shirts, book bags etc.

The logo is of two parents and a child reading a book. The bodies of the people are in blue/green but the heads (just ovals no features) are all white/pale beige colour. DH is black and says he is a bit Hmm about the logo and it would have been better if they had kept the heads the same colours as the bodies (blue & green) rather than putting a white family on the logo.

Is he being over-sensitive? I am white and we live in a mainly white, rural area.

I do always notice that the local Sure Start Newsletter is filled with photos of a wide range of ethnicities so they have obviously made a real effort to do that.

What do you think?

OP posts:
MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 14:44

No it wouldnt Empusa you just use sillouhettes.

Cocoflower · 04/09/2011 14:44

So your worried about isolation

Yet, you choose to live in an area where you actively have isolated him

You now think a logo will make all the difference?

MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 14:45

like this

Claw3 · 04/09/2011 14:46

Crosshair, i agree its not wrong to make the connection as OP's dh did (and i just did about sterotypes and the torches came out!) just seems well a bit over-sensitive to be offended by figures, whatever colour they are, on a school logo.

Empusa · 04/09/2011 14:46

mumbling I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell you how those silhouettes aren't inclusive enough. Grin

MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 14:46

Coco.....they have the right to live where they bloody well want AND expect to be incuded.

Fontsnob · 04/09/2011 14:48

Actually, most of these logo's are pretty bloody awful and all offend me due to their lack of design sensibilities. Can we change them all please. I for one would NOT send my child to a school with comic sans as their logo typeface.

Empusa · 04/09/2011 14:49

"Coco.....they have the right to live where they bloody well want AND expect to be incuded."

Quite! Should they be expected to "stick with their own kind"?? How ridiculous.

HowlingBitch · 04/09/2011 14:49

I just can't understand why people are trying to see sense in this. Honestly it just shows (I'm sorry) ignorance to real racism and kind of takes the piss out of anyone who has been subject to it.

I think you should be advising your DP to seek a better attitude on things, otherwise he could pass the rather big chip on his shoulder onto his son.

Empusa · 04/09/2011 14:49

"I for one would NOT send my child to a school with comic sans as their logo typeface."

I couldn't either, they might grow up to think is was acceptable

Cocoflower · 04/09/2011 14:50

Yes you have a right, but too be so concerned about being isolated then choosing to live an area where you are minority seems very very odd to me

You cannot ignore this fact, yet make a big song and dance over a logo

It seems your values only come into place when it suits you

MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 14:51

I'm not the OP coco.

Mitmoo · 04/09/2011 14:51

your DH is not BU!!! How could he even think of sending his child there??? Such subtle racism against 4 year olds it's insidious. He should insist all logos reflect the demographic make up of the children in the school, perhaps have 100 faces and 3.5 of them get coloured in, they should have others with speech marks around so those with English as a second language denoting each language. They should have some with one parent, but that would have to be a single mother and a single father so as not to discriminate, then one for children from care.

No matter how ridiculous the children will look wearing 8ft long jumpers so long as no fool can should "ism" it should be done.

Fontsnob · 04/09/2011 14:52

Exactly Empusa we all know where growing up thinking comic sans is okay will lead civilisation.

TheMonster · 04/09/2011 14:52

Mitmoo Grin
Don't forget children with same-sex parents.
And children being raised by wolves.

Tenacity · 04/09/2011 14:53

OP I am sorry but your story sounds a bit iffy..

MumblingRagDoll · 04/09/2011 14:54

It's this kind of sniggering that makes people afraid to speak out.

Empusa · 04/09/2011 14:54

Fontsnob Did you know that Papyrus has become a gateway font nowadays? Awful awful thing.

TheMonster · 04/09/2011 14:55

Have you noticed that the Gransnet banner depicts a white granny? What about black grannies?

HowlingBitch · 04/09/2011 14:56

Claw3 · 04/09/2011 14:58

I dont agree with that point of view Coco, my son with a disability attends a mainstream school, where he is very much in the minority. I dont see it as isolating him, i see it as quite the opposite, including him.

Fontsnob · 04/09/2011 14:59

Oh Empusa I just died a little inside.

fedupofnamechanging · 04/09/2011 15:00

They are included. no one has said "you can't go to this school because you are mixed race". The school would not be unreasonable to refuse to change a perfectly acceptable logo because one parent feels it doesn't represent his particular family. Well, so what. The world doesn't have to bend over backwards to make him feel happy.

If anyone has given this any thought at all, then they have shown what most represents their school population. Far more important to focus on what they are actually doing in terms of educating the children.

Fontsnob · 04/09/2011 15:02

On a less font related note...mumbling I do agree with what you are saying re: where does it end (sorry I can't find the exact quote) I do also think we have to be careful with where we begin, and I don't think that this is the right place iyswim.

Cocoflower · 04/09/2011 15:04

Well in a roundabout way I agree with you Claw. If you are happy to include your child at that school and let them fit in as much as possible; fantastic

What I am saying is if you felt it paramount your child also was surrounded by other disabled children (as you thought they may feel more included etc) it would then be odd to defy your own principle and send them mainstream but then keeping finding issues.

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