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To not want to buy MIL a bloody tv for Christmas?

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DirtyBit · 24/08/2011 12:18

Apologies for the premature Christmas related topic.

Also, sorry that this is quite long and a bit like one thing after another, just don't want to drip feed so have tried to get all of my points in.

DPs mum separated with her husband about 6 months ago, but they still live together. She is apparently moving in to a new place with DPs younger sister (13) by Christmas, although I can't really see this happening, as she isn't doing anything about it.

DPs original plan for her Christmas present was presented to me like this:
He, his brother, his brother's DP and myself would put the money together to get her a car that she wanted. DP was thinking it would cost about £600 so £150 each Hmm I said I wouldn't be able to afford it. Turns out the cheapest you could get that particular car for was around 2 grand so that isn't happening.

Now DP wants us to put money together to buy his Mum a TV for her new place as she won't have one. He says this will cost about £100 from us and the same from his brother. Now I know DP and he will look at TVs that cost £200 and decide that they aren't good/big enough, and so will want to get a better one, he did this when we moved out and were looking at TVs.

I told him last night that I didn't think we should be buying his mum a TV for Christmas, as it's too expensive, and he seemed mightily pissed off.

I'm not just being a cow, there are a number of reasons I feel this way.

We are both students, work part time (I am on Maternity Allowance at the moment) and have a 14 week old DD. We are constantly having to shop around to find things we need for DD for the cheapest amount possible, we don't splash out on the nicest things as we can't afford it.

The reason that this is really pissing me off is that he currently has the car my mum gave me (I haven't yet passed my test) as his is on its last legs. He was supposed to sell his car and buy a new one, which he hasn't done (has had around 5 months to do this) as he says he can't afford to buy a new car even with the money he will make from his.

Also, if I suggested spending £100 on my mum for Christmas he would flat out refuse, and say "she's loaded" (she's not) so she doesn't need it. Never mind the fact that she has spent around £2000 on DD, provided us with so much that we couldn't afford and on top of that has offered to look after DD from September while I go back to Uni. For free.

I wouldn't ask to spend that much on my Mum because we can't afford it, so I don't see why he thinks it's ok to spend it on his mum.

We are also going to go down to stay with her over Christmas (we live up north, she lives down south) which will cost us at least £200, probably a lot more because DP will insist on buying her loads of stuff while we're there.

Granted, she doesn't have much money, but she can still afford to smoke and drink, she has an iPhone contract which isn't cheap, so I'm sure she could buy a TV if she really wanted one.

Another thing that is annoying me is that it was DPs 21st birthday this year and she didn't get him anything, not even a token gift. She sent him a card, with incorrect postage, so he had to go and pay the post office to get it.

I am not against getting her a few nice gifts, but am I being unreasonable to say NO actually I don't think we should be buying your mum a tv for Christmas and having us there for DDs first Christmas is enough?

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DirtyBit · 24/08/2011 15:39

No, this is the thing, he's usually really tight with money.
He gets a bit childish though, whenever I mention anything to do with plans with his family that aren't exactly what he wanted.
I'm going to have another word with him tonight, but if he wants to spend his money like that I can't stop him.

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nickschick · 24/08/2011 15:40

Right,I dont have a mother nor do i have a mother in law but I dont think its just the mil or just christmas thats bothering you.

I think you are comparing your mum with mil and thats always a risky business.

I think you are resentful of your dh not sorting his own car out (if you are short of cash thats one of the first thing that needs addressing).

You are a new mum who wants her dd to have things and you feel hurt that dh is 'choosing' his mum and her gifts over dd.

Im not sure if you are being unreasonable or not but either way stuff needs resolving.

ouryve · 24/08/2011 15:44

Oh, good grief, YANBU at all. You can't afford it any more than she can. If she "can't afford" £200 for a telly herself, then she can't afford the £140 a year for a license, either.

muminthemiddle · 24/08/2011 15:45

YANBU.

Who's idea was it to club together in the first place?
I would never spend that much on my mil or mum.
If your bil wants to buy her a tv then let them do it. Stand firm and tell your dp to get a grip and stop leading you into debt.

Graciescotland · 24/08/2011 15:47

YANBU but can I suggest a trip out to a British Heart Foundation furniture store if you've got one reasonably close by. You won't get a plasma screen but they always have loads of big televisions for sale at around £30-£50 apparently it's quite a common thing to donate as people are always upgrading.

LoveInAColdClimate · 24/08/2011 15:59

YADNBU!

RunsWithScissors · 24/08/2011 16:22

Quick Thought (and I appreciate it doesn't address the overall issue), if your dh isn't using his car, doesn't think it will sell for much, could his old car be the gift to her? Gets her a car, rids you of MOT, etc costs. Maybe one big gesture will be enough for him?

pigletmania · 24/08/2011 16:30

Yanbu at all what a cheek. It's HIS mother so HE should pay not you or the other partner

northerngirl41 · 24/08/2011 16:36

YANBU

  1. Because he wouldn't spend the same amount on your family
  2. Because his mother is a grown woman
  3. Because you're not in a financial position to spend this amount of money on her

What I'd do is announce to everyone that YOU personally are instigating a £10 gift limit this year - no one is to buy you anything more than £10 and you'll do the same. Frankly if I was his mother, I'd be rather relieved by this suggestion as it takes the financial pressure off her to reciprocate. Whatever DH decides to do is up to him, but you won't be contributing or subsidising it!

girlywhirly · 24/08/2011 16:41

The dealbreakers here (for me) are MIL is happy to fork out for cigs and drink, and not to spend anything to buy her DS a 21st present. And yet she is happy to make him feel guilty about moving away. Has she actually asked for a TV and a car, because if not there is no reason to get her them.

She's a grown up even if she isn't behaving like one, she can organise these things for herself.

I think DP is unreasonable to expect you to fork out, especially as he hasn't got his own car sold after 5 months. Full agree with the poster who said either TV or stay at Christmas, you can't manage both.

GetAwayFromHerYouBitch · 24/08/2011 16:43

He is driven to prove his care for his mum with lavish gifts. He has not really grown up fully yet

DirtyBit · 24/08/2011 16:53

I'm going to talk to him later, he really needs to realise that he doesn't and shouldn't need to spend this much on her.

I definitely won't be contributing, my Christmas present budget is about £150 in total, that's for 14 people + bits for DD. Token gifts for everybody from me this year. I might buy everybody a book. Including his Mum.

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ShoutyHamster · 24/08/2011 19:03

Make sure you tell him that him playing out his insecurities and neediness wrt his mum (and the way she treats him) in this way will only make them worse. Because, she won't 'love him more' or stop silently punishing him, she'll up the ante, because she can see that it's having an effect. And on top of that he'll have made life more difficult for the people who actually do put him first - his IMMEDIATE family (that's you and the children, incase he is wondering!!)

Harsh, but I think you need to hit him with the reality of what's REALLY going on - he's trying to buy an easier ride with her, emotionally. Call him on it, in a nice way. For his own good. Because it's never going to work, it's never going to make him happy.

Sad situation for all of you.

pigletmania · 24/08/2011 19:09

Its a lot of money that you cannot afford, and you should not be asked to contribute like that. After all he would not do the same to your mum.

DirtyBit · 24/08/2011 19:21

He's finally agreed that we can't afford it, thank god.

Thank you for all your advice.

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