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To be royally peed off with BA

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sweetleigh · 19/08/2011 07:41

The following account happened from catching a return flight to Cape Town via connecting stopover in Joburg on Virgin Atlantic and British Airways while I was 30 weeks pregnant. (VA flight from London to Joburg then connecting BA flight to CT).Would you be annoyed? To this date, British Airways rung me once from a hidden number, lied and said they had tried me twice (funny how they still bother to lie even though there are mobile phones with missed call facilities). I emailed to get a number for customer service. When I got one it turned out to be an automated lost baggage line. A further request for a service line was not responded to. A week later I get an automated email from BA asking me about whether I'm pleased with their customer service. - Grrr! Anyway, here goes....

The flight out was standard, without a problem. The flight back was nothing short of disaster. Upon check-in at the BA desk in Cape Town, I was told that the flight to Johannesburg was delayed by half an hour. Obviously concerned by the time constraints, when I questioned whether I would make the connecting flight I was assured that there would be no problem and that I would still make the connection. My bag would be checked through to London.

After waiting through the delay, I boarded the plane. While waiting for take-off a disgruntled young man approached the cockpit (I had no idea someone could do this without being arrested) arguing with flight attendants aggressively until everyone was staring, he was obviously bothered by the delay as he too probably had a connection, this seemed to concern a few other passengers.

At the end of the flight, after the plane landed but while the plane was till taxi-ing there was an announcement that all connecting passengers must move towards the front of the plane in order to proceed as quickly as possible. I have never ever heard an announcement on a plane telling passengers to get up while the plane is still moving. Not only that, the passengers were all getting their carryon luggage down from the overhead lockers which caused mayhem due to connecting passengers almost dropping their luggage on those who were still seated. As a pregnant woman it was very difficult to steady myself.

Strangely despite all the announcements on the plane by the time I got to the connecting flight it had closed and I was not allowed on. The Virgin check-in desk told me they were closed (I had already checked through in Cape Town though so not sure why that would matter). The Virgin staff refused to help me, telling me to go to the BA desk instead.

BA staff were completely unhelpful and would not give me any answers. There was no apology, they just told me that ?a woman is coming with a hotel voucher?. They could not give me any answer as to the whereabouts of my bag although they thought it would not have gone to London. By now, most of the desks are closed, the BA staff are looking at pictures on their mobile phones which seems endlessly more fascinating than helping someone locate their bags or giving me any indication about where I?ll be staying. After 20 minutes of them horsing around, I repeatedly asked them where the woman with the voucher was only to get blank stares in return. IAnother 10 minutes rolls by, when I asked her to pick up the phone and find out she did after 5 minutes, giving the answer to my question as ?now-now?, as extremely irritating, unprofessional response which is a South African expression which has no particular reference to any timescale, it?s neither here nor there.

I was told that my baggage might be in the domestic arrivals hall (a good 15 minute walk for a pregnant woman like myself) and I should go there, although there was no confirmation as to whether the bag was actually there or not. When I replied that I, as a pregnant woman, it was not good for me to keep walking this distance (I had already been to various parts of the airport when trying to catch my connecting flight) I was told by her in a condescending manner that I shouldn?t be flying then. Now, can you imagine how infuriating it is to be stuck in this situation with this remark from a person who can?t be bothered to do her job or let alone answer any questions about where my bag is, or even be bothered to pick up a phone and call someone who might be able to do something about it. Might I mention at this point that I have been cleared for flying by my doctor, who has specified in the Virgin form that there is no complications with my pregnancy and there is no reason I can?t fly. (I was 30 weeks pregnant at the time). I was also told by her that a connection of less than 2 hours is illegal. (Weird then that this exact route came up under Virgin?s name on lastminute.com, one of the biggest travel booking agents in the UK)

After a long wait, here comes lady with the voucher, at last. In between that here comes over someone from Virgin to say to me in a condescending manner (as if talking to a child): ?oh, you didn?t tell me you checked in at Cape Town did you?? (this was a blatant lie on her part) The BA staff member tells me that BA is not covering toiletries as there are ?toiletries in the hotel?, not that I had asked - Where she thought I would be able to buy toiletries at that time of night I have no idea. She then hands me a voucher with NO DRINKS written across it in caps like I am some child trying to run up a bar bill.

The BA staff member then told me that I was to go and get my luggage although there was some debate amongst staff as to where it was. It was first decided that it was in a luggage hold in domestic arrivals, the story was changed to it was in a hold below somewhere and the person going to get it would need clearance which meant that someone has to go with me. I then has to wait while 2 BA staff members debated as to whether the one staff member has ever had to go through luggage clearance with a pass (?yes you have?, ?no I haven?t?, ?yes, you have? etc) I have still not been told where the shuttle to the hotel is, no-one seems to really know. I am told to wait and off she goes to get a pass for clearance, promising to come back, I am told I musn?t move.

I am now sitting behind the closed BA check-in desk with no-one around (all the desks are closed) bar a few security guards, few lone workers. Another half an hour goes by, by which time I am now so tired I approach what I can only assume is a BA staff office as it appears to be the only place where I see staff now that everything is closed. I enter the office and ask for the lady who disappeared a half hour ago. No, she is gone, there is now someone else to take over who then informs me that the luggage place is closed (apparently since 9.30pm) and I must come back in the morning and try to locate my bag.

I now just want the shuttle, no-one seems to be sure where it goes from. BA staff man has told us that he knows and would escort me but is going to some meeting. I am then told by the other BA staff woman that she does not know really and would come with me but she needs to clock off her shift in 10 minutes and if she does not wait around she will not get paid.
As I grew up in South Africa, I am fully aware that you do not go ambling around in the dark to try to get to somewhere you don?t know. I tell her I will wait the last 10 minutes for her at the office. This turns into about a half hour ? me waiting outside the office, while BA staff sit around reading the newspaper and laughing and joking ? this supposedly is the wrap up meeting, although it looks to me like it?s just a tea break. Finally she emerges and off we go to find the shuttle bus (incidentally you have to walk through a dark passage off to the side of the Intercontinental ? hardly anyone around given the time and would have been a scary experience for someone who was alone dragging her carryon, without any potential to run). We get to the shuttle point (again no-one around except a few drivers), BA Staff member takes my number and tells me she will call me the next day at a specified time. She also gives me the number of the luggage department. She mentions that ?if she forgets? can I phone the luggage department (don?t really believe at this point that she will phone which was the correct assumption because she didn?t). So I am now the lone passenger that boards the completely dark shuttle. With my mobile dying I feel very vulnerable, having no indication where I?m going. Driver eventually deposits me at the hotel, during which I have a conversation with him which reveals that I was lied to about the time the shuttle ran to (I was told it was 12, but the driver informs me this is not the case and I am on one of the last, if not the last one.)

At last at the hotel with no clothing to change into, the following day after no call from BA I call the luggage office who day they?ll phone me back. Eventually I phone back again after no call back, they tell me they have located my bag and it is in domestic departures. I must come to the airport very early and get it and then go to international departures to get a Virgin flight that I have been booked on for that evening. The only indication of this booking that I have been given is a printout of flight times which someone at BA has circled.

9 hours before departure I go to the airport, to the office and get my bag, no apology as to what happened the night before, being told that they had tried to get my bag to me but I had already left (a blatant lie again as I had been there until way after the office was closed, and I was told it was closed).

I then had the luggage for the remaining hours until check-in opened. I went to the BA desk in international departures to check that I was definitely on the flight. I was told all BA flight are full so that wasn?t an option, although she did not seem to check. However was then told to go to the Virgin office which I was told would be opening at 4.30pm. I waited till the appropriate time and then asked the Virgin staff about the flight. It was then informed that I would have to pay £120 as a rebooking fee for flying that evening and because I missed my flight the previous evening. As you can imagine, I was gob smacked. When telling them it was not my fault that I had missed the flight, they looked at me in disbelief and asked indignantly: ?whose fault do you think it is?? (high-pitched voice) Response from me: ?Yours?. I then explained to them the situation and that possibly they could see why I am now feeling the way I am. I was then given the veiled threat: ?If you want to fly tonight, you?ll pay?.

At my request, a supervisor was then called who decided, like she was doing me a huge favour, still no apology, waived the fee. By this stage another woman in the queue, equally gob smacked by their rude behaviour was also making comments.

To add insult to injury, after eventually getting on the plane I was stuck in a seat that didn?t recline. I had now missed a day?s work, my wedding anniversary, was too tired to work on the day of my return and run up an extortionate bill on my mobile phone phoning family and work long distance to rearrange my schedule.

OP posts:
niceguy2 · 19/08/2011 20:25

Well I did read the post (well almost all) and whilst the service you received is shocking, having been to Africa a few times myself I think this ends up under the "Welcome to Africa" banner.

Service is almost always nowhere near western standards, not unless you want to speed things up with a timely "tip".

Last time I went to Nigeria my plane was delayed by 20 hours culminating with me sleeping in a disused terminal in nothing but my T-shirt whilst a mini riot ensued around me and the police ran off.

Another time in another African country the airport police wouldn't let me into the place until I'd given them a "tip". After that everything was happily allowed through, including the large bottle of water in my hand luggage!

Like I said, shocking service and unbelievable by western standards but in Africa I'm not surprised. At least you were lucky enough the police weren't there!

welliesandpyjamas · 19/08/2011 20:27

Chumlee, it doesn't sound that unlikely tbh. BA don't always employ the most professional people, and our expectations of service standards aren't always met in other countries (this from experience).

bibbitybobbityhat · 19/08/2011 20:27

"Why search her previous posts?"

I will answer this question although it wasn't addressed to me.

Op has posted a monumentally, epically long post.

She has asked Mumsnetters to spend a considerable amount of time reading her complaint about British Airways.

So - is she a Mumsnetter with a previous posting history? Has she offered anything to this site or the other posters on it? Why has she asked here rather than any other consumer or travel website?

I think it is odd to ask a lot from people (whoever they may be) if they are complete and utter strangers to you. All in an internetty kind of way, iykwim. Which you probably don't. Ah well.

bruxeur · 19/08/2011 20:45

Who was that other nutter who posted about BA, and being pregnant, and NOONE CARRYING MY BAG FOR ME AND THERE WAS A PEA IN MY BED etc etc etc?

SleepyFergus · 19/08/2011 22:51

Jeez, if you click on this and read a bit and decide it's not for you, then boh off! Why sit and pick way at how long a post is. If it's not of interest then move on.

Honest to god, some of the folks on mn....

And yes, the OP was pregnant, and the choice to fly was hers, but that doesn't mean she should have to endure unnecessary, over long periods of waiting, or being royally pissed about.

And whilst some of the blame might be attributed to the fact it's South Africa (or any of the other countries quoted) that is no excuse. The staff are representing BA and Virgin and levels of customer service should still be adhered to.

SleepyFergus · 19/08/2011 22:51

Bog, not boh...

bibbitybobbityhat · 19/08/2011 22:59

I am not "picking away" at how long a post is. Am well aware that I could click on and off without comment (have not been on this site for more than 5 years without being aware of that fact). Just thought it might be helpful, indeed inclusive, towards the op to give her a heads up as to why she might not get many replies. Its an inclusive thing to do.

sniffy · 19/08/2011 23:00

OP can you summarise please? It's very wordy

FairPhyllis · 20/08/2011 01:11

YANBU. I don't fly BA anymore since I had my own horrible experience with them - got dumped in the freezing arrivals hall in Heathrow for over 24 hours with no hotel or food due to numerous cock-ups. And the worst thing about those kinds of experiences is when staff, who are supposedly customer service people, just blatantly lie, and lie, and lie to you.

I feel that many of their ground staff have a complete inability to see things from the customer's point of view.

ajourneyofgiraffes · 20/08/2011 05:37

Niceguy - unless you have been to every (or almost) every country in Africa, please don't attribute your experience in a few countries to an entire continent. I wouldn't consider my experiences in Oslo and Brussels as representative as Europe.

ajourneyofgiraffes · 20/08/2011 05:38
  • of Europe.
warthog · 20/08/2011 05:47

oh well. i have considerable experience with both ba and flights to jhb.

the customer service isn't surprising. i have had some pretty shocking experiences too. but not all south africans are like this and you do get some amazing customer service there too.

i have complained to ba in the past about their abominable treatment of me in while 7 months pregnant and they basically shrugged their shoulders with a 'so what'. so complain, but don't expect anything.

the thing i'm concerned about is flouting the safety rules by virgin. you may get somewhere with that.

acatcalledbob · 20/08/2011 06:57

I never fly BA since having a similarly bad experience. What happened to everyone else who connected through Jo'burg?

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