Kids running around naked in the park

[MrsGPotter]

Not sure what to think about this one.

We were sat in a huge garden type place in York and a family were sat nearby with two little girls aged (at a guess) 2 and 4. Both girls were completely naked and running around the park carefree. The park was full of students, tourists, locals, kids etc etc. On more than one occasion the eldest girl wandered off away from her parents and made her way across the park, up the steps and towards the back of the park with mum (fully dressed, thankfully) half heartedly following a few minutes after she'd set off.

Everyone was looking. A few people complaining quietly. A few people blatently uncomfortable with it all and a few people smiling at them. The mother seemed to be loving the attention to be honest and almost seemed like she was parading the girl around the park ("come on Honey, let's walk over this way!") - yes right past a few group of American tourists

I can't quite make up my mind how I feel about this. On one hand of course kids should be able to run around naked but on the other hand - is it sensible, really?

But please report me - I have never ever, in a zillion years of Mn-ing, been deleted for personal attack!

Yes, should women cover up in case men get all unnecessary? That way Burkhas lie.

Well yeah you could say your just saving them time realy, they don't have to faf around with superimposing your child's head onto another body, very odd thinking!

I personal would be very upset if there were pictures on the Internet of my child's head on anothers naked body

I'd be even more upset to think that they had been able to take naked pictures of my child that they could also use other children's faces on enabling even more child pornography on the Internet

But I guess that makes me the weird one

I have no problems with adults being naked, the park I used to go to was sort of known for it. An adult makes a decision, a woman gets her kit off knowing that there are perverts about. Children don't, I make my child's decisions for her. One day she may look back and say she really wishes she could have been allowed to wander naked more in public..who knows. But only she can tell me she doesn't agree with my choice.

Why do you care what my decision is? Why should I have my kid naked if it makes me uncomfortable? Why are you so obsessed with other people's children having to be naked?

I would also love love for a gp to come on here and tell me that in the hundred degree heat we're having where I live that it would be a good idea.

MoominsAreScary don't worry, I'm weird too because I don't parade my kid naked either and would feel uncomfortable with people posting photos of her online naked.

I don't care a fig if your kids are naked or fully burkhaed.

I do care, however , that you might be making catsarse faces at my kids being naked.

Well if you do care about people making catsarse faces put some clothes on them

One. Did you read my post before you had a go at me? I said I probably wouldn't notice and I would never judge if parents let their kids naked. I don't agree with it which is why my parenting choices are different to yours

two. And I find this hilarious, you would be upset if I made a cats bum face at you? But not if a pedophile put naked pics of your kid on the internet? you are an oddun

*Personal attack?

It was just a joke, really.

But, you know, some people find words meaning vagina offensive and ther have been numerous threads about MN names which include 'language' etc. Would you change your name because someone found it offensive? Or think 'I'm not menaing to be offensive so they need to deal with it'?

I think your name is fine. I think if someone finds your name offensive they are being a bit OTT and should calm down. I think the same of people who find small children with no clothes on 'offensive'.*

It is a personal attack as you simply poked fun at my name because you disagree with my opinion on the subject at hand.

I am allowed to be offended by children being naked in public, and I have every right to say so in a debate on the subject without you slagging me off for my choice of name on here.

I have not once said I'd run up to a family and do anything about how I personally feel on the subject have I? I am also not interested in "cats bumming" at them. I think the amount of offence you seem to be taking at my opinion is 'OTT', maybe you need to chill a bit.

and my DDs have no inhibitions at home and run around naked but they still need to learn what is and isn't acceptable

They just do this and cover up.A 2 yr old doesn't need to learn that it isn't acceptable (because it is) they have learned it by the time it becomes unacceptable.

I don't understand this whole photo thing.

It doesn't really make a difference to me - I don't want my child photographed in a swimming costume or photographed naked for the purposes of child pornography. Either way, it is abhorrent.

But if they never know the photos are being taken, they and their care givers are not involved in the photo taking then the harm to them is less than the harm that would be caused by directly sexualising them at a young age by modifying their behaviour or dress on the ludicrous grounds that they are responsible for the sexual behaviour of adults.

The implication in Moomin's post that adults who let children run around naked are somehow responsible for the creation of child porn is an absolute disgrace.

Exactly littlebluespring-it isn't our problem.

I never implied that parents letting there children run around naked are responsible for the creation of child porn so don't try and put words in my mouth

I don't think that anyone has implied that naked DCs are responsible for child porn-only that it doesn't need to be thought about-it isn't our problem.

Well, the word you actually used was 'enabling' not 'responsible.'

And if you think naked children running around in public isnt enabling people to take pictures of them that's your problem

I personally think it's an absolute disgrace that people arnt bothered if their children are splashed all over the Internet

How do you know that yours aren't Moomin? They could have used their heads on naked bodies-you can do anything you like with photos these days. I won't know-no one I know will know-they don't have a name on them. I fail to see the difference between a pervert taking a photo of your 2 yr old with clothes or without. They can't hurt the DC.

I did wonder when kids running nekkid would become, " splashed all over the internet".

Didn't take long....

The only way to be absolutely safe is not take them out in public-or drape them in a burka.

The trouble is Moomin, that your post still makes sense, when you take the word naked out:

'And if you think children running around in public isnt enabling people to take pictures of them that's your problem

I personally think it's an absolute disgrace that people arnt bothered if their children are splashed all over the Internet'

And more and more people are not letting their children outside in public because of exactly this kind of scaremongering.

It didn't Milly.
There is no name-they can't be found in a search-no decent person is going to see them-no one knows who they are-the DC and family don't know. Splash away. (how often do you honestly think it happens
It is surely easier to let your DC play naked and look out for men with cameras.

Exactly littlebluespring and exoticfruits

That's bollocks, people arnt keeping their children in because someone might take a picture of their heads and super empose it onto some thing else

As I said earlier in response to people not being bothered where pictures of their children might turn up

I personally would be upset if there were pictures of my child's face on another's naked body on the Internet

I'd be even more upset to think people had been able to take naked pictures of my child etc

Those are my personal feelings and I am intitled to them