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To say stop apologising for linking to Daily Mail?

44 replies

JazzAnnNonMouse · 11/08/2011 12:27

Most threads that I've come across that have a link to an article link to the Daily Mail. Almost all of these threads have an OP who apologises profusely for this. AIBU to think stop bloody apologising as it's clearly something you've found interesting because otherwise you wouldn't have linked to it??
Why the pretend snobbishness about it?

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FreudianSlipper · 11/08/2011 15:12

doesn't PH have a mail blog

Yes i know JSP is now featured in the DM. I am quite disappointed then again she was on Loose Women why why why she is far too intelligent maybe there is a hidden agenda, i live in hope

Liz I would rather be dead than fat Jones is not really someone who shoudl be taken notice of when talking about the fashion industries obsession with very thin models when she will often criticise others for being overweight and dressing wrongly for their size, she can not accept that they may be happy with their body because she is not with hers

limitedperiodonly · 11/08/2011 15:13

nancy66 I don't doubt it. But it's not in the page 11 round-up I'm reading which doesn't describe the carrying of offensive weapons and references to words such as 'armed', 'patrolled', 'rose up' and 'chase' as either 'trouble' or even remotely worrying behaviour.

It is not okay for anyone to do this whatever their colour or to suggest that it's fine for some people to this because they are simply defending their communities.

lisianthus · 11/08/2011 15:27

Roxy, that can't have been the same Liz Jones.

porcamiseria · 11/08/2011 15:35

YANBU!!!

its annoying MN thing, like "no is a complete sentance", "call womens aid" and using fake chav-lingo to slate netmums, ANNOYING

limitedperiodonly · 11/08/2011 15:35

lis Liz Jones came over astoundlingly well when reviewing papers on Sky News once. I've not seen her on there since. I think they were hoping she'd say something batty about cats and never booked her again.

kenobi · 11/08/2011 15:56

Re Liz Jones - I heard her on radio 4 talking about moving to the country and she sounded demented. Which is how her columns come across, interesting to hear limited she can be articulate.

I find the fact she can hold two fundamentally opposing views in her mind at the same time extremely surreal - as demonstrated by the fact that she did for a while champion larger models but has stated on more than one occasion that she would rather be dead than fat and as a PP has mentioned, sneering at any celeb who isn't perfectly dressed.

That said, that's exactly how the DM functions - on the one hand tutting about the sexualisation of society and calling for teen mums to be locked up, and on the other ladling out endless pics of women in micro bikinis, posing provocatively, wearing teeny-tiny dresses etc etc.

I think the DM exemplifies the very worst excesses of our society in many ways, which is why I feel grubby and embarrassed reading it.
And yes I have stopped reading it except for every now and again, like LJ's INSANE NHS feature.

(Oh and LJ always claims that the reason she got fired from Marie Claire was because she put larger models in. It wasn't - it was because the readership dropped massively because she got the balance of features wrong.)

Pan · 11/08/2011 16:03

sorry nancy, you're right - he writes for the Mail on Sunday, which is entirely different. < still has the sort of face I'd never get sick of kicking>

DrCoconut · 11/08/2011 16:07

"Everone secretly loves the DM - it's like an addiction. Their online edition is a godsend, as people can get their fix without actually being seen with a copy."

Blush
limitedperiodonly · 11/08/2011 16:07

kenobi That's what I understood about Marie Claire. Liz Jones says she was sacked over the double-cover edition featuring Pamela Anderson on one cover and Sophie Dahl on the other.

Broadly true, but it was the last straw. Readers were confused and didn't buy the Pamela cover, not because they were making a statement on Pamela Anderson's body, but because they automatically registered it as a lads' mag and passed on. I think some newsagents did the same and displayed it alongside Loaded.

Other readers bought both issues thinking they were different and deluged IPC with complaints.

zukiecat · 11/08/2011 16:10

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mayorquimby · 11/08/2011 16:38

it's the most pseudo-right o liberal habit on here and it is quite pathetic. so yanbu.

kenobi · 11/08/2011 17:04

oooh thank you limited for that tidbit of magazine history!

JazzAnnNonMouse · 11/08/2011 21:14

pseudo-right o liberal habit

Couldn't have put it better!

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SheCutOffTheirTails · 11/08/2011 21:20

YANBU

It's so annoying.

I've even seen people attempt to discredit perfectly valid points of view because of a link to an article from the Daily Mail.

Don't these gobshites know where the Guardian and the BBC get half their stories from? I'll give you a hint - they have red tops.

limitedperiodonly · 12/08/2011 00:20

shecut everyone cannibalises news. What is your point?

SheCutOffTheirTails · 12/08/2011 00:30

What's your point?

Who is "everybody"? what does "cannibalises" mean in this context?

My point is that the tabloids break stories that are then picked up by more "respectable" news outlets. Journalists in those newsrooms read the Daily Mail, so it's a bit silly to think it makes you look clever to refuse to read it.

Tortington · 12/08/2011 01:00

they dont put quite the fascist spin on it though, even if it is the same story.

i think one should apologise for reading the tory fail.

limitedperiodonly · 12/08/2011 08:52

shecut Everybody in every newsroom reads just about every UK paper. They also take a look at the foreign ones.

There are stories in the Mail that appeared in the Telegraph, Times, Independent and Guardian a few days earlier and vice-versa.

Likewise interviews in Sunday supplements that turn up in condensed form in
red tops and broadsheets and on their websites in the week. Sometimes credited, sometimes not.

The same goes for magazines - if you're a regular Mail reader surely you've noticed them using stories from Closer. It's hard to miss, they always run the magazine cover alongside.

The Mail also regularly reprints interviews that first appeared in The Guardian's G2 section. Have you never noticed the credits at the bottom?

Often they're interviews with people who would not have spoken to the Mail.
I'm not criticising them for it. It's standard practice for all papers.

How many different papers do you read every dayshecut? If it's a wide range then I'm very surprised you haven't noticed this.

Chandon · 12/08/2011 08:57

In RL, I always refer to the DM. As most of my friends are Guardian or Independent readers. DH rolls his eyes. I like being an anti-snob, and if honest, find the DM highly entertaining (could happily kill Liz Jones though)

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