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To think there are far too many do-gooders who believe that criminals should have rights .....

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thecaptaincrocfamily · 10/08/2011 23:36

that outweigh the normal law abiding folk of this country.
The pretence that the riots are in some way linked to the shooting of Mr Duggan is ludicrous! How does the death of one man incite riots in so many cities? Sorry but it is mindless violence and vandalism imo. Greedy little hi* who don't work or contribute to the economy and who want an excuse to get something for nothing, as seen by the looting of shops where goods could be resold Angry. I think these yobs and the parents should lose any benefits they get to pay for the damage and those who work should have to pay a higher tax rate for life (a bit like if you are a danger on the roads you get a higher premium). Deterrants are needed and now we don't seem to have any.......... prison cells with TVs, toilets etc are better than single service forces accomodation Angry and sentencing is an absolute joke.......the baby P killer being out in no time is a prime example of the lack of justice. If the yobs have taught us anything, it is that we need tougher punishments for crimes committed. Sorry rant over Grin
How can parents be allowing their 10/11/12/ 13 year old children out until 10-11pm at night? or not know what they are doing? They are kids!

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NevermindtheNargles · 10/08/2011 23:55

My Grandparents' generation never made shit cakes!

Hanging's too good!

Cut off their toenails!

NevermindtheNargles · 10/08/2011 23:55

My Grandparents' generation never made shit cakes!

Hanging's too good!

Cut off their toenails!

thecaptaincrocfamily · 10/08/2011 23:56

twinkly Grin

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rainbowtoenails · 10/08/2011 23:57

How many Daily Fail readers does it take to change a lightbulb?

None. They live in the dark ages.

tethersend · 10/08/2011 23:59

Let them eat banana cake

FreudianSlipper · 10/08/2011 23:59
Hmm

workhouses thats a great idea, keep the poor in their place why bother educating them either

thecaptaincrocfamily · 10/08/2011 23:59

Lemon I can honestly say that I am very pleased it isn't decent...........we have troops living in tents in Afganistan in sand storms etc which isn't decent either Shock Would bet most of the troops would have a much nicer time in prison for 6 months Smile

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Steph260311 · 11/08/2011 00:00

The whole of society is to blame not just the parents. Childrens friends, extended family, friends families (that they meet) media, teachers, and attitudes of adults and peers all contribute to how someone grows up. I think it's really sad that anyone can behave like that, and shocking the number who have.

thecaptaincrocfamily · 11/08/2011 00:05

I find it quite sad that people believe that criminals should be treated with respect..........what respect do they show to the society in which they live.... if you don't want to go to prison and have indecent conditions to live in then don't commit crimes Shock. Very simple really!

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porcamiseria · 11/08/2011 00:28

dont bother OP, here are the responses

daily mail
fuck off
cunt

ed infinitum

hester · 11/08/2011 00:31

Do you think it's time to send Liz Jones in to cover the riots?
She must be back from Somalia by now.

ThePopsicleKat · 11/08/2011 00:58

For goodness sake, do we need another thread on this?

I've just made a massive point of telling a friend on facebook why calling for the reintroduction of public hangings is not a stellar idea - not sure I can take anymore prejudice and right-wingery today.

Would love some banana cake though tethers

thecaptaincrocfamily · 11/08/2011 01:02

Sorry I forgot I mentioned hanging Hmm

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thecaptaincrocfamily · 11/08/2011 01:04

Clearly Left wingery has done wonders for our Britain......especially taking the Great out of it! < sarcastic Smile>

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MrsTerryPratchett · 11/08/2011 01:30

I'm not reading your thread. Suffice to say that HUMAN rights apply to all HUMANS regardless of whether you like what they do or not.

ThePopsicleKat · 11/08/2011 01:31

I know you didn't mention hanging captaincroc. I didn't say you did.

Actually, people are aware that committing a crime will likely lead to staying in prison, with all the nasty conditions that come with it. But people still commit crimes anyway - not because they are all, every single one of them, pathologically depraved. Which suggests that the problem of crime is hardly as clear-cut and "simple" as you suggest.

It's not about coddling or 'rewarding' criminals, but you are still human if you commit a crime, and deserve to be treated with the same basic human rights as everyone else on this planet.

I'd be very surprised if you have never committed any sort of crime yourself, be it smoking in a non-smoking zone, buying alcohol underage, downloading a song or a film or a TV show for free, speeding.

thecaptaincrocfamily · 11/08/2011 01:34

ThePops - the crimes you have outlined are not devastating other peoples lives, ruining the economy further and making everyone else poorer i.e. tax payers. If these youths are bored then perhaps a good dose of military basic training for 2 years would cure it and give that sense of purpose that these poor souls are lacking.

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