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10 year old Vogue model

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sherbertdipdab · 05/08/2011 07:48

VOGUE FGS

just when you thought it couldn't get any younger :(

www.inquisitr.com/132475/10-year-old-vogue-model-thylane-lena-rose-blondeau/

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CheerfulYank · 05/08/2011 20:37

What lifechanger said.

I love the comment on the article: "every generation's going to have its Brooke Shields or Eva Lonesco." Yes, and both of those girls were wronged too! FFS!

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HarperSeven · 05/08/2011 20:56

I disagree with anyone who says this isn't really about children, it's just about women needing to look young. While there is something to that argument, I think the real intention here is more sinister.

The concept of 'sexualisation' of young girls in advertising does not just mean young girls are made to look sexually attractive... this kind of imagery is meant to convey a sexual maturity in young girls, the images show us young girls who seemingly want to be sexy and therefore to 'want' sex. That is sex they cannot consent to. So to my mind, this imagery argues that children can validly consent to sex.

I find that base and cowardly and wrong. Cowardly because all this kind of thing does is legitimise a sexual predators longing for young victims. It says...she's asking for it.

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CheerfulYank · 05/08/2011 21:21

You're right, HarperSeven , of course it's about the child. I also think it's awful for so much emphasis to be placed on how beautiful her appearance is when it may very well change. She could develop a very different shape/look after puberty, which is just asking for any number of complexes. Poor little mite.

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scottishmummy · 05/08/2011 21:37

its a both and.child and adult women imagery and sexualisation
commoditisation and selling of a dysmorphic iamge

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Maarias · 05/08/2011 22:07

It's worrying and horrible, but I do wonder whether it wasn't meant to provoke controversy, and publicity. It's certainly achieved it even by us talking about it here...

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clairmatin · 06/08/2011 17:22

It's Wrong wrong wrong wrong!!! Angry
With all the internet child pornography + the rest.....
How come something like this can be allowed to be printed!

Let's boycott VOGUE!!! and lock up the parents !!!

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Xenia · 06/08/2011 17:42

Freedom of the press is much more important. We need a libertarian state where parents are allowed to have different views from the norm and where we all celebrate our differences (within reason). That is much more important than whether Vogue can generate press comment by presenting a girl in a particular way.

If you want to protect girls lobby to stop child marriages across the globe.

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CheerfulYank · 06/08/2011 17:45

Parents are allowed to have different views from the norm. Magazines should not publish photos of children looking like adults , even if the parents are daft enough to allow it.

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maypole1 · 06/08/2011 17:53

I don't get it what is this picture supposed to be sexy yuk


The parents are the same ilk who buy bras and thongs for their little children


Nothing wrong for a child to model for a childrens clothing range say next or a childrens magazine but this is sick


I would imagine their making the clothing so small the only people who can fit in them are 10 year olds


Shame on her mum and dad

This reminds me of a documentary I watched a while back were a dad was allowing his 13 to dance on the Internet for older men apparently its a japeneese thing and the worse thing he was a policemen


I guess everyone has a price and for these parents they were willing to cash in their daughters dignity


I don't really like saying this but ss need to look into this their is clearly something wrong with the parents judgement she has leoped print high heels on for gods sake

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maypole1 · 06/08/2011 17:56

Like others have said modelling agencies often pick ip the next big thing but then puberty hits

Spots
Wide hips and crooked teeth
Uneven boobs come and their dropped at the blink of an eye

I very much doubt this girl will look the same when she is 13 then what


I feel very sorry for children when their parents place all their importance on how they look

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nooka · 06/08/2011 18:00

My dd is the same age as the model. I think it is a very vulnerable age when children are caught between wanting very much to be older and also wanting to still be a carefree child. dd flips between child/min adult several times a day. I could just imagine her being caught up in the enjoyment of being the center of attention that the photoshoot must have entailed (although I bet it was exhausting too) and being really disturbed about what she was being asked to do.

I found the photographs very disturbing, in particular the poses and the knowing looks. To me they look like a child who doesn't particularly 'want it' but has had it anyway, which I very much hope is an illusion. Very sad. I wonder whether like Brook Shields she will be trying (and failing) to control those pictures as an adult, when she will know more about what some people will be doing with them. I imagine these will be floating around the internet for a very long time.

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Dexifehatz · 06/08/2011 18:44

That's shocking especially the picture with no top on and all the necklaces covering where her boobs would be if she was actually old enough to have them. Awful . I agree with this

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lachesis · 06/08/2011 19:02

'Like others have said modelling agencies often pick ip the next big thing but then puberty hits

Spots
Wide hips and crooked teeth
Uneven boobs come and their dropped at the blink of an eye

I very much doubt this girl will look the same when she is 13 then what'

Or she might wind up reaching an adult height far below what's required for a high-end fashion modelling.

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Xenia · 06/08/2011 19:28

I think it is very important that magazines can take photographs. None of you need to buy Vogue or anything else you don't like but we need a free press. That's more important than the fact someone might not like a pro or anti hunting magazine and want it banned etc.

We want much much less intereference by the state over what is published, not more. That should be the mumsnet campaign. More freedoms not fewer.

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LadyClariceCannockMonty · 06/08/2011 19:36

I just cancelled my Vanity Fair subscription and explained to them why I shan't be buying it, or any other Conde Nast publication, again.

I agree with Xenia that a free press is important, but so is the right to voice objections and exercise economic clout. I will miss my Vanity Fair though!But it's worth it. This is an important issue.

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EuphemiaMcGonagall · 06/08/2011 19:36

Oh get lost Xenia. Angry This isn't about the freedom of the press.

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PoppyDoolally · 06/08/2011 19:40

I would suggest that this image is illegal under UK law. It is an indecent image if a child. No two ways about it. She is in a sexually provocative pose. Wearing full make up and nail colour. A fleeting glimpse of that picture without any knowledge of her age would leave any reasonable adult under the impression that it was yer another such photo of an adult model.

If a man was found in possession of such a photo of, say, his niece, he would be charged with possessing an indecent image of a child.

mumsnet please report vogue to the police for distributing an indecent image of a child. It will be one of the clearest challenges to those who are seeking to sexualise our children.

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flossy1967 · 06/08/2011 19:40

I think Vogue is being very exploitative of this young girl and they should have more commonsense than to publish this kind of material. The parents of this child should have stopped her doing these kinds of images it is inappropriate. I hope that vogues buyers vote with their purses and stop buying it! From my limited knowledge of vogue it is mainly advertisements - how will this affect companies advertising in vogue I hope some will stop using them!

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CheerfulYank · 06/08/2011 19:41

What about the freedom of a child to not be pimped out by her parents, Xenia ? FFS!

Dexi for some reason that picture doesn't bother me as much. Yes, she's topless but to me that one almost looks like a normal kid on holiday or something. She has no breasts at all; it's like looking at a baby to me. The ones of her in makeup and heels disturb me much more.

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strictlovingmum · 06/08/2011 19:50

Agree with all of you who see it as a"Parental pimping", what the hell her parents were thinking about.
Images are beautiful, if this girl was of appropriate age, but she isn't, and therefore it is very disturbing.
She is way to young to be pouting like that, obviously photographer who was directing her manipulated her very well.
Shame on you 'Vogue" for making our children every pervert's dream come true.
To you Xenia do you have girls of your own?
Would you be happy if this was you cherub ten year old?

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strandednomore · 06/08/2011 19:53

Her mum is a French actress, there is a picture of her with her daughter at an earlier fashion show (when the little girl was 5) walking down the catwalk together...
the dad is a famous French footballer. Apparentlyt.

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strictlovingmum · 06/08/2011 20:01

So this must be some kind of acceptable "Eurotrash" bullshit.
strandednomore I guess it figures, "mother actress, father footballer, maybe same moral ethics and norms, don't apply to their children.
In twisted world of no reality, maybe this is acceptable, but when is splattered all over the "VOGUE", within easy reach of our daughters, pardon me for not giving two f*s, about the status of her parents, nor their professions.

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Xenia · 06/08/2011 21:20

Every mother who dresses their little girl in crop tops is doing the same. Only complain about this Vogue issue if you will also be on the street tomorrow stopping every single parent who is with a little girl in clothes like this. You must be consistent. Either you want the freedom or you don't.

The image is not unlawful. We want fewer not more restrictions on the press even if it is images people (some people or even most people ) may not like.

Yes I have two girls. Many people in the UK get on these hysterical band wagons which seem always to come with some kind of dictat - Ban It. I wish we didn't do this. We need to think more about freedom. By all means don't buy Vogue but banning is not the English way. Conversely let people wear the burkha but let us be free to write about how silly and hot they may be and how they will fall over and the other issues relating to it. Banning is rarely the best way to proceed.

The "string em up" in relation to all matters in this field is another nasty thing about current British society and probably it was just as bad in the Victorian age for that matter.

I would allow parents in the UK even if children are under 10 to be covered (as plenty are near where I am) and also to be displayed with sexually provocative clothes on as is equally common. I would also allow children to be naked. I want a country with those freedoms. We only keep them if we sometimes fight for the freedom for people to do things of which we don't approve.

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LineRunner · 06/08/2011 21:32

Xenia. You're very autocratic! 'You must....'

Must I?

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sherbertdipdab · 06/08/2011 21:42

Xenia

Do you think it acceptable for adults to look upon the under 10s as sexual objects?

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