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to think the newborn phase might actually be quite fun?! MARK TWO

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takethatlady · 29/07/2011 19:09

Hi everyone,

A few weeks ago I posted a thread on here asking for positive newborn phase stories, since so many people in RL kept telling me how bloody awful my life was going to be when my LO was born - not just that there'd be sleepless nights and endless feeding and all the rest of it, but that this would inevitably be a singularly miserable experience that would have me frazzled and a nervous wreck for weeks, if not months. I tried to make it clear in my original post that I wasn't expecting it all to be a barrel of laughs but just wanted some hope that it couldn't be that bad, could it?!

The response I got was mixed (as expected, of course) - lots of people did share glimmers of hope and positive stories, but some people also continued to be quite negative, telling me to 'manage my expectations' and implying that I was naive at best (and offensive at worst). A couple of people suggested that hatred of your DP comes as standard. And some asked me to come back once I actually had a newborn, so (almost) four weeks into motherhood, here I am.

I want to prefix what I'm about to say with the caveats that: 1) I very much agree (and always agreed) with the posters who said every baby is different. Just because I happen to have had a good experience this time I know it doesn't mean I will next time or that everybody else does or should; 2) I know that the fact that I have had a good time as a new mother is more down to luck than judgment - I am not here to gloat! (In any case, I'm only four weeks in to a lifetime of parenting and it would be pretty foolhardy to count my chickens now!); 3) (and this one is important) my baby is healthy and generally of a good temperament. She sleeps and eats. I know that lots and lots of babies are not healthy, or have health issues which worry their parents immensely, or do not sleep or feed well, and that this can be traumatic. So again, I realise how lucky I am. I don't think that the newborn phase IS fun or that it SHOULD be fun. All I want to say to anyone about to become a new parent is that it CAN be fun, some of the time, and that nobody should have to feel guilty for saying so!

SO - firstly, I don't hate my DH. He was incredible at the birth and has been incredible ever since - supportive and encouraging of me, loving towards our DD, and lovely to be around and to learn to be a parent with. In this, again, I know I am very lucky. But whatever people say, it is NOT inevitable that you will hate your partner. In my case, pregnancy and birth/new motherhood have exacerbated everything I already felt for him - he has made me feel safe and happy and I feel closer to him than before. Perhaps if I had had doubts about him those too would have been exacerbated.

And (here goes) I have found being a new mum fun, and from what I know of other new mums, this is often (though of course not always) the case. Every day is filled with firsts -first bath, first trip to the doctors or the cafe, first time BFing goes without a hitch, first go in the buggy, first visits from family and friends. When things go right (and of course they don't always go right) it is lovely - when your DD weighs a pound more than her birth weight two weeks after she's born and you realise that the sleepless nights of feeding have paid off, or when you get her down to sleep and manage to have a shower or watch your favourite programme on TV or to slurp a glass of wine. I find it quite funny now that people told me to 'manage my expectations', as if hoping I would enjoy some aspects of motherhood was naive: in fact, I had no expectations - just hope that we would all get through the first few weeks alive! I fully expected sleepless nights and crying (from her and me) and cracked nipples, etc, and have managed not to put any pressure on myself or DH to get things 'right' - just to manage to do things at all is enough! And I think that has helped me to do nothing but enjoy getting to know my beautiful new daughter and discovering that I am actually capable of being a mother.

So, once again, I really don't want to suggest that I have done anything special to enjoy this period of my daughter's life, or that anybody else is doing anything wrong if they don't - there are a million variables and every baby and every situation is different (as lots of people said on the other thread), and if my DD was poorly or inconsolable a lot of the time I know that my experience would have been very different. But I think it is unfair that people are so quick to suggest that, just because they had a bad time, everybody else inevitably will too. It's like anything - ups and downs, and worse for some people than others with no rhyme or reason. But if you're pregnant and reading this, I just want to say it really is possible, if not inevitable, that you will have the time of your life with your newborn baby and being part of a new family :)

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joric · 29/07/2011 22:33

Lovely OP :)
The whole first year (inc. Newborn phase) was the happiest year of my life!!
I was on maternity leave and LOVED not working and staying a home looking after our little baby.. I had time to cook, keep on top of the house and we were generally just v. Happy!
Going back to work and moving on was ok but nothing compares to that time!

inspireme · 29/07/2011 22:48

Couldn't agree more with the OP, our LO is 4 wk's old and he's been great and it has been nowhere near as bad as people lead me to believe- and seeing how much DH loves our LO has made me love him even more!

I'm fully aware things could change but for now i'm making the most of it!!

thursday · 29/07/2011 22:53

i'm surprised you got such a negative response last time. last thread i read here about newborn phase some poor woman was told she clearly lacked maternal gene because she said she didnt enjoy it.

i have 2, first time i was too blitzed to enjoy it, baby felt like a complete stranger who hated me and everything was a bfing/non growing baby related stress. 2nd time i loved it, apart from the section recovery we had a fab time. never went without sleep really, she never cried, there was no stress, she was happy all the time. wonderful time.

InMyPrime · 29/07/2011 23:40

Thanks for the positive side of the story, takethatlady Grin. I'm 31 weeks pregnant at the moment and both DH and I cant wait to meet our DS already, especially having had a 4D scan this week.

We were just saying today that we want him here now to enjoy being with him and know that he's arrived safe and sound. At the same time, we couldn't help wondering how different life would be with him, having a new person in the house and it's not just the two of us anymore. It's good to know that it's not necessarily an unrelenting slog of misery and sleeplessness and stress.... I hope I can look back in a few months time with a positive attitude too... fingers crossed!

alittlebitcountry · 30/07/2011 00:56

Congratulations OP and very well put. You've managed to express pretty much exactly how I feel.
Thats not to say we haven't had any difficulties along the way (emcs, unsucessful at breast feeding, pavlik harness at 6 weeks) but the good things so outweigh the rough patches.
I am very aware I may never get to experience this again so am hugely nostalgic for the first couple of months already even though DD is still only 5.5months old. I'm also trying to savour every possible second as she grows so fast.........
.........should really put her down now, just keep thinking 5 more more minutes cuddling since her midnight(ish) feed.

JenniL1977 · 30/07/2011 01:03

Thank you takethatlady what a lovely post. I'm 2 weeks off my EDD and just want to get on with it, especially now I've read your experience!
Hope it all keeps going as swimmingly for you :)

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FreudianSlipper · 30/07/2011 01:24

even though i find it very tiring i loved it, i still do. ds was such an easy content baby then it all changed, the change was so sudden when he threw his first set of tantrums i thought he must be poorly because he was suddenly such a grump

from 3 and still ongoing i have found it much much harder, still lovely though and in many ways much more enjoyable

BitOfFun · 30/07/2011 01:33

I found it pretty hard-going, amid the obvious pride and awe. It got progressively worse, so in retrospect, yes, it was fun Grin

It eases off when they get to about 14 though.

scrivette · 30/07/2011 04:30

I also have a 4 week old newborn and whilst we have had problems feeding, the odd very bad day/night, tests for prolonged jaundice I have thoroughly enjoyed having a newborn.
Perhaps because I kept reading that it was going to be so bad that in reality it wasn't.
I realise that the baby is still only 4 weeks and there is plenty of time for it to get worse!

kiteflying · 30/07/2011 04:45

I loved it too! And I had a colicky reflux baby who screamed for about three hours a night. But her first smile will always be more vivid in my memory than anything and I loved loved loved carrying her around wrapped in a sling close to my heart. Enjoy. Thanks for sharing. I am hoping my second will be as much of a delight as my first was.

georgie22 · 30/07/2011 06:01

Glad you've had a good experience OP. It's such an individual experience. For us it was a difficult time mainly due to problems with bf which led to me feeling like a complete failure. I had such mixed emotions - elation at having our lovely dd but disappointment that things didn't turn out as I'd hoped. However I've found the subsequent months fantastic - I love seeing dd's personality develop and find this much more rewarding than those early days. Other people find things more difficult as they get older and start moving but for us dd was a frustrated newborn and is now the happiest baby ever now she's mobile and provides us with endless laughs! Dh and I are closer than ever so those difficult early days did not impact on our relationship but I'm glad they're over.

nannyj · 30/07/2011 06:23

I was dreading it a bit after all the stories I'd heard but I had a fab time too. Wish I knew it could be like that as well as being crap and I think I'd have had a different outlook when I was pregnant.

bestmate · 30/07/2011 06:41

Our 3rd was a joy to have as a baby. I feel sad when I read posts on fb from friends about the toll on their body, the sleepiness nights, 9 months of pregnancy followed by 10months of getting up at Random hours, total sleep deprivation, sore boobs, awol dh's, sniffles, antibiotics, teething etc.

Number 3 slept 5 hour stints within a week, and was sleeping through by 5 weeks, I was devastated, I loved that midnight hour and 3am slot, just us 2 together. I wanted that time, and would do it all over. Surprisingly it wasn't so much with number 1, I think i was one of the original moaners!

StealthPolarBear · 30/07/2011 07:25

"It eases off when they get to about 14 though"

the fun or the difficulty?
i have a 4yo and a 2yo and have been reassured that every single year that follows this one will be more demanding & stressful :(

Bumpsadaisie · 30/07/2011 08:05

I enjoyed it too.

I was tired but I was thrilled to not be pregnant any more and was on a high at having finally done childbirth and managed it OK.

Not having to work full time any more! I found it really hard to focus on my work while pregnant when I was (1) really uncomfy and tired and (2) only really interested in pregnancy/babies.

I had lots of NCT friends and we were out and about and meeting up every day. Walking DD around in the sling meant I got quite fit and it was a delight to feel so mobile after so many months of staggering round like a heffalump.

It was high summer so dead easy to dress DD - just a vest and some cotton pull on trousers and off we go.

DD fed like a dream - no pain, no mastitis, text book weight gain. It just happened - nothing I did.

I couldnt put her down at all for the first 6 weeks as, unless she was absolutely out for the count, she would cry. This was logistically challenging but I think it made me very bonded to her.

She slept on me/next to me at night so I did manage a reasonable amount of sleep interspersed with feeds.

She never did marathon feeding sessions. 15-20mins or so every three hours maybe.

By four weeks she was smiling at me which was lovely.

The challenging bit was evenings when she was often a grump in those first days - used to have to put her in the sling and walk! But it was high summer, so really quite pleasant to have a stroll with her and DH to the pub etc.

DC2 due in October - I think it is going to be harder this time! I am sure I have forgotten a lot ... Someone asked me the other day how many little vests they go through in a day and I have no idea whatsoever. I am sure DD must have poo'd her vests a lot but I have no memory of it at all!

No doubt this amnesia explains the upbeat nature of this post!

VeronicaCake · 30/07/2011 10:15

The reason so many of us feel the need to warn people about how demanding the newborn stage can be is to help other parents recognise that if you find it tough it doesn't mean you are doing it wrong! With the exception of my mother who was very honest and practical I didn't get much info about the newborn stage in advance of the birth. I certainly didn't get dire warnings from everyone. On the contrary everyone went on about how wonderful it was and kept saying dopey things like 'You'll fall more in love with her every day?', and I found that added enormously to the stress I felt because I didn't feel how a new mother was 'supposed' to at all and assumed that must be because I was shit at it.

There were loads of bits of the newborn phase that I enjoyed but I think I would warn anyone that it can be very very intense simply because you and your baby have to learn so much so quick. When DD was a year old I was reading a pop science book on neurology which explained that oxytocin, the bonding hormone, functions as a neuro-modulator and enables the brain to wipe existing neural pathways and establish new ones more easily in order to facilitate speedy learning. I found it quite helpful to discover that learning to care for DD felt like brainwashing because I literally was being brainwashed!

With hindsight I can see that in physical terms caring for a newborn was probably the easiest stage of parenting, but even though each subsequent stage has been mentally and physically more challenging it hasn't been remotely as emotionally demanding.

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takethatlady · 30/07/2011 12:25

veronica I'm sorry you had a tricky time with your newborn. I really have no problem at all with people being honest about what they found difficult, and I have a very big problem with people who pretend everything is wonderful for them because they are such wonderful parents, and if you're having a tough time you must be doing something wrong. That is utter bollocks - as I said in my OP I have been very very lucky this time around and it may be very different for me next time (if I'm lucky enough to have a next time). I also have friends who are wonderful parents who have had a very tough time. As I said in my first post, there are a million variables and every situation is different, and we all pretty much get the experiences we're given and it can go any way.

But my post was about people who say that it will be inevitably awful and who, even when you ask for some hope or positivity, tell you there is no hope because the newborn stage is awful for everyone. That's all.

I've got to go as people are arriving ...

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ApocalypseCheeseToastie · 30/07/2011 14:12

I loved the newborn part and found it very easy, even with screamy colicy dd.

I was luckey in that both mine were sleeping through at 6 weeks and before that only ever woke once for a feed. So I could forgive dd screaming for 8 hours some days (thank the lord for baby carriers) and ds feeding constantly !

diddl · 30/07/2011 15:10

Oh I loved it too I found it quite easy.

Although at first baby was in SCBU so I wasn´t being woken in the night, but when he came home there was a period of feeding every 2hrs!

But I was lucky enough to be able to sleep when he did & sometimes probably didn´t get out of the house until 12!

Housework went on a back burner-all I wanted to do was cuddle/admire baby & take him out in the pram.

Also loved it when I had second & had a toddler (22months) & a newborn.

jenna13 · 30/07/2011 17:03

I remember your post from a few weeks ago and I agreed that everyone being so negative about the newborn stage only made new mums to be scared and it had stopped me from being excited about my dd being born. My dd is now 16 days old and I again completely agree with your new post, it is hard but it really is wonderful Grin

lisianthus · 30/07/2011 17:18

Lovely thread. I loved the newborn phase too. Not easy, but still wonderful.

  1. All the firsts- still remember the look of wonder on DD's face when she first saw a tree.
  1. The "we're in this together" team feeling with DH. I came to a whole new appreciation of how great he is, seeing him with DD.
  1. The nostalgic smiles on strangers' faces when they saw DD and remembered their own DC/DGC at that age.
  1. DD falling asleep in my arms and marvelling at how small and perfect she was.
  1. Just getting to meet her and know her for the first time.
  1. NOT BEING PREGNANT ANY MORE! Getting my energy back, despite soreness from the birth and not feeling like the simplest task was the equivalent of climbing Mt Everest. I hated being pregnant. Compared to that experience, having a newborn was a doodle. God, I still remember cleaning the bath the day after I got back from hospital and the feeling of exhilaration when I realised that I wasn't knackered afterwards. And I was no longer swollen up with limbs like tree trunks.

TBH I had the kind of job which involved frequently working all night after a full work day and dealing with unpleasant shouty people, so a newborn wasn't much different except that I actually LIKED the red-faced person shouting at me. It was a step up!