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to turn my back on my selfish alcoholic friend?

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glitteryturd · 24/07/2011 11:24

The back story. My best friend is a gay man (30 years old) who have I have known for 20 years. We grew up together. He does get heavily involved in the gay scene and I just leave him to it. Not intentionally, but I have a lot of gay friends. They all went through the Manchester scene and then settled down with jobs, houses, partners and pretty settled lives. My friend moved to London to live with his boyfriend 2 years ago and I knew something wasn't quite right but I did visit and keep in touch offering him a way out the second he wanted to come home. He never visited me and he didn't even text me on my 30th. As usual I just made an excuse for him, I can't accept he is that selfish.

So 8 weeks ago my friend drank himself almost into a coma. He was in intensive care and was very, very sick. His family contacted me and brought him home. I found his behavior very strange and a few days after being out of hospital rang me begging for help. He was stranded, drunk miles away and at 2am I had to leave my toddler and husband to find him and make sure he was safe. The following day after spending the night at mine, he seemed ok. Then he went missing. He was missing for 4 days, police involved etc. He was found drunk in Manchester after emptying his bank account and blowing the whole lot on drink (£600!!!!). I rang round the hospitals and found he had been picked up by ambulance and then just got out of the hospital when he woke up. I was beside myself. I spent 4 days crying, going over things, worried he might have killed himself. Driving round with no sleep the whole of the north west desperate to see him and know he was safe. All the time he was getting drunk, not giving anyone else a second thought.

He agreed to a family meeting and asked me to be there to support him. I obliged. He told us all his ex had been abusive and this was the reason for the drinking, for him to forget. He promised never to do anything like this again and would always speak to someone if he felt like he wanted to run away again. He said no more lies and apologised for all the worry and hurt he caused. I blamed myself for not getting him out of London sooner. I took him to a doctor, I pleaded for them to see past the alcoholism and help him and after hours of fighting with them, they did. He got the help he needed and he still has that help today. I have fought his corner every step of the way. Sometimes putting him before my family in the hope it will help him recover. I have excused his lies, deceit, drinking, attitude, behavior every single day to everyone he meets.

He has been doing brilliant. I have seen him most days and given him things to do. When he needs me, I am there no matter what. Sitting at macdonalds at 2am cos he can't sleep, giving him plans so he has a reason to get up in the morning. He has had no money so I have paid for him to do things with us and I have also been the sound board for his family, mainly his mum who is not coping at all with this. Along the way he has lied to me and has stolen wine from my house. I have blamed his illness for this and thought that one day he won't be like this. Of course he has drank, I understand that but each time he has we have talked about it and decided on a plan. I have never been angry, I have always been a rock of support. Always understanding, always seeing the good in him.

Then on Thursday out of the blue, he manages to get a crisis loan (living with parents so no need for any money to live) then goes missing again. Straight to Manchester to the gay village to drink himself into a stuper and sleep with as many men as he can. While I panic that he is missing and his phone is off. After texting him a million times I get a reply telling me that I am the most important thing to him and that he is fine. He refused to tell me where is was. And that was the only thing I heard. So yet another few sleepless night until he was found by one of the many people walking the streets looking for him last night. Drunk and in a gay bar with no thought or care for his family or me, and we are all beside ourselves. I missed my childs bed time so I could sit and talk to his crying mum who was again, scared he would come to harm like he had before.

I am livid. Not angry that he is drunk, not angry he is in Manchester. But angry that he decided to get some money and do this without saying where is was going or when he would be back. Ignoring my texts...the only reason he has credit on his phone is cos I have paid for it. I am not his keeper, I don't demand to know where he is all the time but I would like a bit of mutual respect and acknowledgement at how much I do for him without question, just by the thinking to have let me know he will be away a few days and that he was safe. He didn't say he was going away, he just walked out of his parents house. He had plans with me the next day and he didn't let me know or show up.

The thing that upsets me more than anything is that I am very ill. I have a few serious medical issues going on atm and he knows just how scared I am. But he hasn't for one second thought about me and what effect his behavior has on me. Disappearing off the face of the earth after being so vulnerable and pleading for help leaving us all to be worried sick, just so he can get bladdered and act like a child is proving just a little too much for my nerves, my marriage and my health.

AIBU to wash my hands of him and let him destroy his own life without dragging me down with him? Does anyone have any experience of this kind of thing or where I may get some advice?

Thanks for reading my doom and gloom story. I need bacon big time after that!

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 24/07/2011 14:00

life

glitteryturd · 24/07/2011 14:01

Thank you everyone for your posts. You have all made me see things for what they are.

I have spoken to his mother and told her I will be stepping away. She understands and has thanked me over and over for everything I have done for him and her. She is going to keep me informed but knows I will not be dashing out to save him or support his actions anymore.

I have also sent him a text saying goodbye. I have said my door is open when he is ready to accept what he is doing and I will be waiting but until then I hope he finds a friend to support him as I have cos I won't be doing it anymore.

I feel sick to the core I am walking away from him but I also feel hopeful it might help him see how bad he is.

Thanks again

OP posts:
LRDTheFeministNutcase · 24/07/2011 14:06

glittery, I guess what I'm trying to say is, I don't see why you are making something that you admit isn't really to do with his sexuality, to do with his sexuality! I get that you think he's selfish, but why insist on comparing him to your other gay friends as if to find fault? I'm asking because, as I understand it, some alcoholics will go to huge lengths to blame someone else or make something other than alcohol the problem. The last thing he needs is to feel you have a problem with things other than the alcoholism.

It's pretty clear from your account that he has a major alcohol problem, and it's also clear it is so destructive you need to step away. So maybe this point is moot. But it doesn't sound as if his lifestyle has anything at all to do with his sexuality and is chaotic rather because he's an alcoholic on a chaotic path downwards, than because he's gay. Don't give him an excuse to sidestep that fact by mentioning his sexuality - he'll take it as a reason to think he can ignore what you say about his alcohol problems.

LRDTheFeministNutcase · 24/07/2011 14:07

Cross-post, sorry. Definitely a moot point then!

AnyFucker · 24/07/2011 14:07

have a hug, GT x

glitteryturd · 24/07/2011 14:16

Thank you AF. I am taking your hug and buggering off for a maccys. I can see a lot of comfort eating coming on here. Replacing a friend with a burger will have to do for now.

Thanks again everyone. I have kind of sat on this and put my hands over my ears singing 'la la la' but it is time for me to take advice!

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 24/07/2011 14:22

difficult and self-destructive friends versus a burger ?

no contest Smile

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 24/07/2011 14:37

Selfish people can often be attention seeking drama queens but being gay and/or alcoholic doesn't mean that your friend, and others like him, are a protected species and that his selfishness or other inconsiderate behaviour towards you and others can't be remarked upon.

I have one gay friend who I love dearly but that doesn't mean that I fail to recognise that essentially, despite his many endearing qualities, he's totally into himself and his next transitory bumsex coupling.

By contrast I have other gay friends who cottage with gay (no pun intended) abandon, but none of them is as intrinsically selfish as my other friend.

That said, the only way you can go is to follow the path of tough love. Make it clear to him that you'll be there when and if he genuinely decides to turn his life around and you can see that he means it (i.e he checks himself into rehab or similar) but that, until then, you're done.

Stop allowing him to jerk your chain, and encourage his family/other friends to stop being at his beck and call.

Another crossed post. You've chosen wisely -
make it a double burger Grin

Greatdomestic · 24/07/2011 19:37

OP, been in a similar situation myself.

Only your friend can make the decision to change - no matter how supportive you are, you cannot change the self destructive cycle which he's currently in.

No matter how much of yourself you give - time, ££ -it will never be enough - addicts manipulate.

Take a step back and think of your own needs. Sorry to be harsh

DontGoCurly · 24/07/2011 19:52

Hey OP, You've unwittingly been enabling him. Lending him money, picking up the pieces after every blowout.

He's been using you. YANBU to walk away. Really, you should have done so a lot sooner for your own sake.

balijay · 24/07/2011 19:55

OP I think you are doing the right thing no matter how difficult it feels to do it.
Have been in a similar situation with my brother and tried everything to get him to help himself but he just won't have it. As much as I love him I just have to let him get on with it right now and hope that one day he wakes up and sorts himself out. You have your own family who must come 1st - you know that.

Hope your medical issues improve soon too

Jux · 24/07/2011 20:53

Well done, op. A hard, hard thing to do, but you've done it.. Burgers sound good for the moment but nothing beats chocolate.

DoMeDon · 24/07/2011 21:02

I think walk away is the wrong term - detach is a better one. Offer him your love without getting so involved. You can understand and support without the mad dashing about, the lending money.

I think this should be an experience that teaches you a huge lesson - be the most important person in your own life.

You put everything on the back burner so many times for him, put you first.

northerngirl41 · 24/07/2011 21:17

He loves the drink more than he loves anything else - you, his family, or even himself. There is absolutely nothing you can do to help if he won't help himself. It is very, very sad to see and will no doubt intensely upset you. But you can choose to stand by and watch all of this or you can step back and refuse to watch - in some ways it makes absolutely no difference.

GloomyPlatform686 · 10/04/2025 16:55

Huh. I am in my 30s. My "best" friend is also gay and also in his 30s. His troubles started around 10 years ago maybe. He's always been a happy go lucky type until his ex fleeced him of 5000 he won after developing septeciema from an abscess. He never quite recovered from it.
Two years ago he lost his mum. He put on a good front but his drinking got worse.
I have autism spectrum and am also ocd. One day, he rings me up crying his eyes out (usual case after a gallon!) Demands I go to see him (turns straight into mr hyde!) So me being me I had to borrow some money from mum to go see me.
He was waiting for me by the gate at 6pm
He was swaying at the gate. In fact the gate was holding him up.
He perked up for a bit but then went on a loop about the same stuff like he's done for the last 5 years ams carried on drinking and by 8pm he was passed out on the sofa-
Told him not to drunk call me and guess who still drunk calls me? So I changed my number
I can't remember the last time he asked how I was it's all gotten very one sided and now i feel toxic.

I'm sorry for my rambling here op but I do hear ya and for the same reason if you feel you need to do it then do it. His family now send him home when he's like that! He refuses help. I've told him I'll only talk to him sober but he doesn't listen. I feel for ya 💯 last time he somehow managed to put me on hold, ring me again so like there was a 3 way conversation going on, ge said he fell over and I said well you best get up then, he said I will in a minute then drops his phone and won't pick up when I call, so no more from me, I've know. Mine 28 years this year and it's an awful thing to go through, especially when he turned round and said he doesn't think I'm ocd because I don't look it! Like what lol

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