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AIBU?

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....to think the term 'junkie' is hugely offensive and ignorant....

196 replies

InFlames · 23/07/2011 20:21

...following on from the Amy Winehouse thread...this will either take off or I'll be slammed for bad nettiquette won't I?

I think the term 'junkies' is really offensive. Would you refer to people experiencing psychosis or schizophrenia as 'psychos'?

AIBU?

OP posts:
catgirl1976 · 23/07/2011 20:22

[GRIN] YANBU....................but I think you knew I thought that already :)

TidyDancer · 23/07/2011 20:22

I'm not sure. I don't feel that psychosis is entirely comparable to drug addiction though.

controlleddemolition · 23/07/2011 20:23

I think this was taken up on the thread, why the need for another one?

FWIW, I wouldn't use 'junkie' but I think I consider it utterly shocking in the way I find racist or homophobic terms to be. I don't know why though, feel free to flame me.

catgirl1976 · 23/07/2011 20:23

Not entirely perhaps Tidy. But both are illnesses

BornInAfrica · 23/07/2011 20:24

Oh do grow up inflames - there really is no need for this unless, of course you're attention seeking?

InFlames · 23/07/2011 20:24

No you're right tidydance - different aetiology, prognosis and treatments. But wonder if the terms are used in similarly offensive / ignorant ways?

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DontCallMePeanut · 23/07/2011 20:24

YANBU! Grin

cookcleanerchaufferetc · 23/07/2011 20:25

People choose to take drugs, people do not choose to suffer from schizophrenia. Big difference.

Andrewofgg · 23/07/2011 20:25

No; drug addiction, apart from the desperately unfortunate people who are born addicted, is self-inflicted. It is not an illness.

TidyDancer · 23/07/2011 20:26

Yes of course they are. But when you're comparing them in terms of how offensive the slang terms are, you really have to look at how the situations occured. Psychosis comes about in a totally different way than drug addiction does. The suffering itself isn't a choice, but in the majority of cases, it is a choice to take drugs in the first place.

InFlames · 23/07/2011 20:26

It was pointed out, reasonably, that the Amy Winehouse thread was maybe not the best place for this discussion. I started another one in response to this.

borninafrica do feel free to share the same views you've spouted elsewhere and see how many people think your use of certain words is acceptable.

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catgirl1976 · 23/07/2011 20:26

cookcleaner people DO choose to take drugs. They do not choose to become addicted to drugs. The two are not mutually exclusive. Lots of people take drugs without becoming drug addicts, just like lots of people drink alchohol without becoming alcholics

GypsyMoth · 23/07/2011 20:26

not an illness,i agree

floosiemcwoosie · 23/07/2011 20:26

They are labels. Labels lead to stereotyping, which leads to de humanising which leads to oppression.

Language is a very powerful thing.

Lady1nTheRadiator · 23/07/2011 20:27

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peggotty · 23/07/2011 20:27

I don't know. My sister who is an alcoholic (not drank for years though) will use the phrase 'alchies'. There is very little sympathy or understanding of addiction.

controlleddemolition · 23/07/2011 20:27

Would you refer to people experiencing psychosis or schizophrenia as 'psychos'?

No. Primarily because 'psycho' is short for psycopath, not for someone who is suffering from psychosis or schizophrenia. What a strange thing to say OP. Do you think of those people as psychopaths?

InFlames · 23/07/2011 20:27

What about drug induced psychosis, which can be caused by cannabis among other drugs and can, and does, develop into schizophrenia?

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Wallissimpson · 23/07/2011 20:27

Taking drugs is a choice.

Psychotic illness is not.

LineRunner · 23/07/2011 20:28

It's an offensive term, yes.

cookcleanerchaufferetc · 23/07/2011 20:28

People choose to take drugs ... What happens then is a consequence of their initial choice. Their choice. The path they chose to take.

People do not choose to suffer from schizophrenia.

catgirl1976 · 23/07/2011 20:28

Again - taking drugs is a choice. Becoming addicted to drugs is not a choice.

scottishmummy · 23/07/2011 20:29

casual use of derisory terms is stigmatising and dehumanising
the junkie becomes less person somehow and a catch all label and associations applied.and yes the mental health parallels are there too

cookcleanerchaufferetc · 23/07/2011 20:29

But if you don't take drugs you won't become addicted.

Funny that ...

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 23/07/2011 20:29

Stop using it then, OP. Really. Stop.