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AIBU?

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to shove a lump of my finest excrement through this wankers letterbox?

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OscarLove · 22/07/2011 18:57

We live in a block of apartments. There is a lift and this evening my kids and I were waiting for it. This man, who i'd think to be in his thirties, is a rough looking dawg lives on the ground floor. His door is facing the lift. So, whie we were waiting forever for the ift to come down, this ruffian came out of his door with his big massive akita dog. We were stood about two feet away from his front door. When he came out I smiled at him, as mostly, folk are friendly round here, but he didn't smile back, then as he was locking his door, he muttered 'who the fuck are you standing outside my front door. Stupid bitch'. and he walked off. I was very tempted to shout something rude back, but with little ears listening, I stopped myself. I cried when I got in Been a long day and this was just the icing on the cake!

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Bearcat · 22/07/2011 22:17

Cheer up Oscar!
Walk to the first floor to wait for the lift next time so you don't have to have any dealings with the miserable bastard outside his front door.

BeerTricksPotter · 22/07/2011 22:33

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DogsBestFriend · 22/07/2011 22:39

"the fact of the matter is they're an agressive, possessive breed,"

Complete with link to ehow.

Thanks, but I don't need a link to a jack of all trades internet website to know that you're stereotyping and talking bollocks. I work with dogs, all breeds, including Akitas.

BeerTricksPotter · 22/07/2011 22:41

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honeyandsalt · 22/07/2011 22:43

Ah well with a sample size of one, obviously that means they're all lovely, no matter how they're treated

It's not a reflection on the dog itself, but the fact is that some people buy dogs of breeds which can have aggressive tendencies in order to look hard, or train to attack. They just do, it's a shitty human behaviour no-one's having a go at dogs. Staffys, for example, can be a wonderful family dog, or abused into aggression. Anyway this is all going off on a bit of a tangent...

BeerTricksPotter · 22/07/2011 22:47

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YummyHoney · 22/07/2011 22:50

Poor you - that's awful. You did the right thing not responding in front of your DC. Try and forget about the psychopath, and definitely don't retaliate - or you'll be a bigger moron than him.

Rhinestone · 22/07/2011 22:51

Some of you are forgetting Rule No 1 of MN which is that Dogsbestfriend is categorically the only person on the planet who knows anything about dogs. She is the most expertest expert in the universe and no-one else loves dogs and no-one else is allowed an opinion on anything to do with dogs.

Dogs, we all know the great rescue work you do but you don't have to be so bloody smug about it. Believe it or not, you're not the only person on MN who knows about dogs and rescues.

Perfectly reasonable to be intimidated by an aggressive twat with a large dog as bet he didn't get the dog in order to put a pretty pink collar round its neck.

DogsBestFriend · 22/07/2011 22:54

YummyHoney · 22/07/2011 22:54

agree that his dog is unlikely to ever wear a pink collar.

honeyandsalt · 22/07/2011 22:55

@beertrickspotter - er, it's predictable 'cos it's true. If you guys don't think some men keep certain breeds of dog to intimidate people, you're barking.

(sorry, couldn't resist...)

@Rhinestone - shit, I missed that one in the chat guidelines, what an idiot

BeerTricksPotter · 22/07/2011 23:03

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honeyandsalt · 22/07/2011 23:31

You are deliberately misinterpreting my posts, noone has said "omg Akitas are intrinsically evvvvillll", simply that a certain kind of man tends to go for them with the idea of intimidating others. Akitas are big Japanese hunting dogs and are well known for being defensive of their owners and, yes, intimidating. That's not to say they can't be lovely, merely that this twat probably bought the dog to look hard.

I think you're so hypersensitive to a preconceived notion that people are having a go at a dog breed, when actually it's their owners that are the problem. A dog can be a lethal weapon if it's treated the wrong way, it's not a groundless fear to be wary of an agressive man with an Akita if he has trained it as a weapon, it's just sensible.

MissVerinder · 22/07/2011 23:32

I'm laughing my knickers off at milestone. DP will be pleased.

OP send him a card with a poem about smiles in it!

MissVerinder · 22/07/2011 23:33

FFS I mean rhinestone

BeerTricksPotter · 22/07/2011 23:35

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honeyandsalt · 23/07/2011 00:00

I can see how my last sentence could be construed as implying that I thought this particular dog had been attack trained, my mistake, that is not what I meant.

I agree that it is the owner that is the problem. I have also said (repeatedly) that dogs like Akitas and Staffys can be great family dogs.

But an Akita with an agressive owner is just not the same thing as, say, a soppy family lab, and it's no use pretending it is. The fact is that that dog is fully capable of seriously injuring someone (like most large dogs), and the characteristics of the owner make the dog's aggression towards people more likely than the average pet. It's a bit like the difference between, say, a penknife kept for bushcraft, and a thug carrying a knife. They could be the same knife, but the intent is different. And if you saw a thug with a knife, and that thug was being thugish towards you, it's entirely legitimate to be wary of his knife.

Loonytoonie · 23/07/2011 00:05

My mother has a miniature Yorkshire terrier: Evil, little bastard wants to rip me to shreds whenever it sees me. It's only about 4" tall FFS.

OP, just keep your distance and don't take this to heart. This chap, regardless of what dog he has, is living a shadow life - explained maybe by mental illness or special needs - walking amongst the 'normal' and well grounded members of society and possibly not getting the help he needs.

Keep your distance but recognise that he could very well have problems. I wouldn't go along with the poster that suggested flowers - could very well tip someone like that over the edge.

EldritchCleavage · 23/07/2011 00:36

Er, the OP posted for a bit of sympathy and understanding, not to give the dog/anti-dog factions on MN an opportunity for another ding-dong.

OP, I agree with Loonytoonie-keep your distance from him. If a smile can provoke that kind of aggression, you really don't want to risk any further contact.

Thruaglassdarkly · 23/07/2011 00:43

Sorry you had an awful encounter to add to your bad day. I think you'd be unwise to react though. He sounds like a tricky customer and could turn extremely nasty were you to do anything like this. In RL - ignore him. On MN, feel free to imagine posting turds through his letterbox and we'll all join in (in a virtual sense of course) if it makes you feel better.

Some people are just rude. Others are rude and unhappy. But he could also be rude and aggressive, so protect yourself and your kids.

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