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Lucyinthepie · 22/07/2011 09:49

OK, here's the cleaner rant from the other side of the fence. Grin
Rant 1 - a lady who is a casual acquaintance was telling me that she's increased her hours at work and she's persuaded her husband she can get "help". She then tells me that she's told him she'll get me in for a couple of hours a week to clean. Thanks for asking me! - I've got people waiting for me to find a slot for them, but they don't want early in the week so I tell her that I'm really full up, but could probably fit her in 2 hours on a Tuesday. She says great. I go on to say that I bring all my own consumables and equipment, have public liability insurance and will give her a copy and remind her that my hourly rate is £11 (which she already knows). Her reaction "Oh, well we're only prepared to pay £8 an hour, that's the abolute max DH will pay for a cleaner". (There's a kind of change of tone in her voice on the word "cleaner" that I can't really describe, but it gives me an almost overwhelming urge to tip her cappucino in her lap!). I take a calming breath and assure her that there are plenty of cards in the newsagents advertising cleaners and she should look there.

Rant 2 - cleaners are traditionally paid on the day that they work. When I start with a new customer I ask them to leave the money, cash or cheque, on the day I visit. So why is it considered OK to leave a note saying they have forgotten to go to the bank but will pay the money next week? Or even decide that because they are a bit skint it will be OK to leave me a post-dated cheque? If I get a day or two of people messing me about with money and I start to feel quite financially challenged. Grrr!
That's it really, just felt like getting that off my chest before I pack up my Miele and set off for 5 hours work. Nice people today, they make me tea and pay me. I may be giving some others their written warning if they're not careful. Grin

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YellowDinosaur · 22/07/2011 18:04

I have to say that on occassion I have forgotten to leave the money out for my cleaner. I have always texted her immediately I realise and offer to drop the money round to her. She is always happy to leave it till the week after. This is because I am human and a bit scatty on occasion not because of any disrespect. I LOVE my cleaner - she is an angel and I would be lost without her!

The flip side is that when I leave out too much money if I don't have the right change she often takes it all if she doesn't have change and I then leave less the following week.

peggotty · 22/07/2011 18:05

Can I go off at a tangent and ask all the cleaners on this thread how they got started? Am looking into doing this in sept when youngest dc starts nursery. Did you advertise locally etc or leaflet doors? How do you decide what your hourly rate will be? Does it usually fit in well with school hours? Thanks!!!

brainhurtsandconfused · 22/07/2011 18:11

I started by placing some postcards in a few local shops and post offices and was quite surprised by the responses I had. I've since picked up more customers by being recommended.

Although I never envisaged myself being a cleaner, It's ideal with young dc and I love being my own boss. Go for it!

Lucyinthepie · 22/07/2011 18:12

I have no problem with people forgetting to leave the money out and then letting me know how I can get the money (in which case I'd probably say wait until next week, but might need it so go and get it). What I do mind is people assuming that because they are a bit short or they can't be bothered to go to the cashpoint, I should just do without until the following week. I think there's a big difference.

I got started by answering an ad for a small local guesthouse and working there for a while to pick up tips and tricks. Through the owner I got a couple of customers by word of mouth and it went from there. I have a friend who did very well by targeting a specific (rich!) area with a leaflet drop. I plucked the hourly rate out of the air, well below agency rates but hopefully high enough for people to think that I might be a bit special compared to the people advertising in the paper shop at £5 per hour. When I was in marketing one of the first lessons we learnt was that it is possible to under-price yourself. Your price says a lot about what you think you're worth.

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giyadas · 22/07/2011 18:17

Lucy - thanks Smile have found it on their website. Wouldn't touch a dyson if you paid me. (or left a post-dated cheque Wink)

DontAskMeSums · 22/07/2011 18:20

Maybe it's better that you don't do your friend's cleaning anyway. My close friend is a cleaner and even though she cleans the house next door to mine, she won't do mine because we're mates. At first, I was a bit peeved but then I realised she was absolutely right - our friendship is far too important to risk bringing 'business' niggles into it.
What a daft attude your friend has, though.

peggotty · 22/07/2011 18:40

Thanks. Good point about not under-pricing yourself! I live in quite an affluent suburb and am sure there would be a demand if I undercut agency prices.

Lucyinthepie · 22/07/2011 19:21

Well DontAskMeSums, as I said, she's a casual acquaintance, not really a friend. I have cleaned for friends though and it wasn't a problem. They left the money on the table and I went in while they were at work. If they'd pissed me about then they wouldn't have been friends I guess.
Maybe for those starting out who want to advertise, the advert could say something like "an excellent cleaning service cheaper than the agencies"? Oh, and if you go to Simply Business you will find that insurance is really reasonable, I'd recommend getting some.

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forehead · 22/07/2011 19:29

yanbu, i pay my cleaner £15 per hour and i provide all the materials. I always pay her on time and even give her holiday pay.

Good cleaners are hard to find.

proudfoot · 22/07/2011 21:42

YANBU. The first woman sounds up herself and why should she assume you are free to work for her - at less than your standard rate. Brazen IMO.

And of course you should be paid on time!

DoMeDon · 22/07/2011 21:50

the people who treat you this way consider you the help and are worthy of as much disrespect as they've shown you. some people are idiots

yanbu btw

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