to think that hovering in public toilets does not necessarily mean you wee on the seat?

[StealthPolarBear]

I am being victimised, VICTIMISED I tell ya

Why would you? If you use enough paper, the underside of it has come into contact with the surface, not your hand! Do you have OCD?

In that case why wash your hands after using the loo at all?

Are you having a laugh SPB? Because you've touched the door of the toilets and in most cases your genitals as well..blimey!

Door of toilet a good point, although as others have mentioned the number of people who don't wash their hands before walking through the exterior door kind of makes that a bit pointless.
I don't touch my genitals particularly.

Agent... yes we have suspected for years. We were once in car park and he walked round the car for ages checking the doors he HADNT opened (he had just popped the boot to put some stuff in)

I know its not really funny but we do have "where's Dave?" moments. "oh he's gone back AGAIN to check the doors" . My Mum nearly brained him when he woke her up at 3am to tell her there was a sweet wrapper on the floor

If everyone sat on the seat properly it would never have any wee on it. So there would be no reason for anyone to hover.

My crazy Spanish friend thinks you have to hover because her Auntie caught an STD from a toilet seat!? She is even crazier than I thought for believing that one!! Really auntie?! The toilet seat...not that dodgy fella...!

I'm not a hoverer... Don't have the knees for it.

As for wee on seats... If we all started writing that little ditty on the walls in the cubicle it might make a difference.

"If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be sweet and wipe the seat."

Hand washing - My hand doesn't come in contact with my body or any fluids when I wipe, am I missing where the germs come from?

I know a couple of people who don't wash their hands in public toilets because whats the point when you have to touch a germy door to get out. So they wait until they are out and use hand sanitizer.

To all of you who say it's the wetness from the flushing that causes it.... would it be totally ridiculous to suggest that you close the f-ing lid before you flush. The lid is there for a reason!

Hand washing - My hand doesn't come in contact with my body or any fluids when I wipe, am I missing where the germs come from?

Is that a joke. Feels mild disgust if it isn't. Germs pass through loo paper.

Hand sanitiser isn't the same. Do you know that the norovirus can't be killed by hand sanitizer or soap. Washing hands dislodges it from the your skin. If you don't wash and use hand sanitiser it won't work! Why not just grab and extra paper hand towel and use it to open the door then discard it.

Whenever I've seen the loo flushing onto the seat A1980, a lid was a luxury too far for whatever establishment I was in.

I didn't say I don't wash my hands. I do because thats how I was raised. But just when I stop to think about these things it made me wonder. But how do the germs get through the paper. The wee doesn't come through onto my hand. Perhaps germs just work harder!:o I tend to use my sleeve or scarf (if Im wearing one) to open doors though.

Toilet seats seem to be a luxury round here too. Maybe establishments are worried about people doing lines of coke off them!

Obsessive 'hygiene' is not good for health. Our immune systems need to be exposed to a few germs to keep them active.

I carry sanitiser wipes in my bag. I hover while I pee and very rarely if I do tinkle, I wipe the seat off with the wipe and then dry it with loo paper.

I also wipe the restaurant high chair before my DS uses it.

I use a paper towel to close the tap and open the door in public toilets.

But then, I am quite OTT when it comes to cleanliness. My early years in a tropical country with rather low standards of hygiene have made me paranoid I guess.

But how do the germs get through the paper. The wee doesn't come through onto my hand.

Germs are microscopic. You can't see them, they're so small and they pass right through toilet paper. Studies showed that the germs from faeces pass through 10 sheets of loo paper!

Why worry about sitting on a germy loo seat?
It won't be you licking the back of your thighs later on, will it?

DD1 asked me this afternoon what she should do when the toilet seat is wet at school and there's no loo roll.

I had to tell her to hover.

Sorry for passing it on to the next generation hover haters

Surely there wouldn't be piss on the seat in every cubicle? And no loo roll isn't on - how do the kids wipe. The classrooms must hum by midday!