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to think this is a pisstake

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 17:37

Have started work in a residential home for people with MH issues and LD's. All staff are required to do "sleep ins" where you do a long day, say 10 till 10, then stay over till 10 the next morning. That's bad enough but for the second half you get paid £25 quid. I'm a single parent with 3 dogs and I can't do 24 hour shifts. Is this normal in care homes?! I can't move in to my workplace! I've got my own home to deal with Sad and Angry

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:02

Put it like this. I don't give a crap about my colleagues missing out on a night in front of the TV or their weekly club night. I have home responsibilities, and that's that. My childrens and pets welfare is obviously of major importance

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DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 18:03

"If you cannot find a new home for them at once have them put down"

Do you want to tell him that only a sick-minded, inadequate wanker would advocate murdering three dogs for such a reason, intelligence, or shall I?

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 18:04

(PM returned, by the way). :o :o

MsTeak · 14/07/2011 18:05

It's not illegal and it is entirely standard in the care industry. Whether the pay is terrible or your contract is correct is a matter you have a consult experts on.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:06

Troll alert!! Troll alert!!

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Andrewofgg · 14/07/2011 18:10

Oh lord, lord, you can't murder a dog, it's not a bloody human being and you can only murder a human being.

Yes, Intelligence, your children's welfare is important; but they are your children and not your colleagues' children. You are very sarcastic about their private lives - but you had a non-child private life BC and when your children are older and do not need supervision you will again. And at that point you will see that I was right all the time. One sort of private life does not trump another.

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 18:12

"Oh lord, lord, you can't murder a dog, it's not a bloody human being and you can only murder a human being."

Bollocks.

The taking of life is murder. Your suggestion that the OP kills her dogs - which I know she finds as deplorable as I do - is indicative of a very disturbed mind.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:15

One sort of private life does trump another. That's just common sense. And what DBF said

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Andrewofgg · 14/07/2011 18:16

Is it murder if you swat a fly?

Was it murder to eliminate the smallpox virus?

I don't feel disturbed except by the suggestion that other people should give up their private lives for OP.

MsTeak · 14/07/2011 18:17

Why does it? Are your more important than someone with no dogs or children? Hmm Don't be ridiculous.
I just lost all sympathy with you.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:18

What's wrong with you?!

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DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 18:18

How you feel is not how you come across Andrew.

A normal, rational person of adequate intelligence does not advocate the killing of three perfectly healthy dogs for financial gain or convenience.

That can only place you in one position.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:20

Oh I don't care. They either let me opt out, which they will, or I'll work elsewhere. If raves and holidays are more important than home RESPONSIBILITIES to you then fine

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MsTeak · 14/07/2011 18:21

oh god, you're unbearably full of yourself aren't you?

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:22

What DBF said again.
Yet again on MN, wierdness arises. Common sense evaporates.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:22

Are you a single parent working 55 hours a week? Doubt it

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CroissantNeuf · 14/07/2011 18:23

So OP, when the job was advertised and you applied for it/at interview/when you signed the contract was there any mention of Sleep-in shifts?

I find it difficult to imagine that they spend time and money advertising and recruiting to then drop this bombshell on people once they are in post.

I was a residential social worker in a childrens home about 20 years ago and we did similar shifts that ran from 2pm-2pm (sleeping from midnight til 7am if you were lucky). The waking hours counted towards your 38 hours perweek and the 'sleeping' hours were a standard rate unless you were awake when it would be paid as overtime or lieu time.

Its knackering yes but has its positives eg. I had 5 days off a fortnight instead of the usual 4, more time around home before starting work at 2pm. This was BC and very few colleagues had children though.

MsTeak · 14/07/2011 18:24

No. And the fact that you are is no-ones problem but yours, and certainly not up to your colleagues to take up your slack when you refuse to do the job you took.

Andrewofgg · 14/07/2011 18:24

It's a dog. If you are a human of child-rearing age it will probably die before you do (I certainly hope so). It's nice to have a pet, but it's not an essential of life. If to earn a living you have to do without it, well, you have to do without it. If you are obliged to move into a new home where dogs are banned the same applies.

I am normal, rational, and of more than adequate intelligence and what I have just said is correct.

The children are another and more serious issue. I know how difficult OP's position is regarding them - but people with no children (none yet, now grown up, or never at all) are not inferior and must not be dumped on. Is that rational?

DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 18:25

Do you know, intelligence, if you said you were going clubbing and leaving your dogs and kids for 24 plus hours all MN would be calling you the mother of all whores.

Say that you cannot work those hours because of the kids and the dogs and suddenly you're full of yourself and ridiculous and someone else's clubbing/whatever is as important as your defenceless children and dogs.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:25

No mention at all, only of nights, days and weekends. None of this moving in stuff, not in the advert, or at the interview.

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intelligenceitself · 14/07/2011 18:27

My colleagues are going to have no choice, MsTeak, are they. I won't get the sack, so...

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DogsBestFriend · 14/07/2011 18:28

Andrew what you've said is far from rational, normal, compassionate or reasonable and is sure as hell far from correct.

And as a rescuer I'm sick to death with weirdos and losers who think that a dog's disposable when he doesn't suit.

I know the OP of old... you have as much chance of getting her to dump or kill her dogs as you have getting your head iut of your own arse me doing so.

CroissantNeuf · 14/07/2011 18:28

So if they did mention nights how were you going to cover those with regards to your children and dogs?

Or did they imply that you could pick your shifts?

MsTeak · 14/07/2011 18:29

No, she's full of herself for her unswavering assertion that her lifestyle is oh-so-much more important than anyone elses and her RESPONSIBILTIES should take precedence over her colleagues.

Not finding out the actual working hours before taking the job just adds to the silliness. I find it impossible to believe there was no mention of these shifts, what possible advantage could there be to a company to take on someone who couldn't actually do the work? None at all.