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AIBU to expect this woman to discipline her daughter?

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StarsAreShining · 07/07/2011 19:58

I really don't believe that I was in the wrong, but feel so angry that I have to get this out. Was at a play area with my 3.5 year old son today. Been a bad day. Found out that he has to have more bloody tests at the hospital, then bumped into his dad at a shopping centre when he'd told me he couldn't come to the hospital because he was working. I don't have much confidence, so rarely take my son to places where there are going to be a lot of people, but I thought it'd be a nice treat for him.

As soon as he started to play, he was told that he wasn't allowed on any equipment and they were refusing to let him do anything. Physically stopping him. He's incredibly sensitive to this kind of thing, so I encouraged him to stand up for himself and just carry on playing, but they persisted and he ended up lying on the floor and crying. I told him that they were being selfish and he can do whatever he likes, but he believed that he couldn't play. He cried and told me that he was scared of them, but perked up when I said I'd be near him on the play equipment. This all happened while I was sitting next to the mother of one of the girls. At no point did she step in and do anything.

The group disbanded, and were fine on their own, apart from this one little girl. She was being particularly nasty to my son, and he's not very confident, so is actually quite shaken by this stuff. It takes him a long time to get over it, and he still asks whether naughty children he's encountered in the past will be at a play area, because he's scared of them. I tried to gently deal with it for a while, but it was having no effect, so I ended up having to speak to the girl myself and tell her to stop it and that the play equipment was for everybody to play on. I felt incredibly awkward about doing this, as I'm a very nervous and unconfident person, but her mother was doing absolutely nothing. When she grabbed my son and tried to pull him off the equipment, I told her (quite angrily I suppose) to stop it, then turned to her mom in an INCREDIBLY awkward way and said something incoherent, like "Could you..... you know?".

To cut a long story short, I was shouted at by the mother and told 'She is only a child, you know', as though my son isn't. Apparently, her age means that her behaviour is cancelled out. She was visibly very angry at me. Then proceeded to tell her daughter to 'play nicely', but finished it off with 'but you are only a child' whilst glaring at me. Basically, a free pass to do whatever she likes. I think she'd been sitting there getting more and more wound up at my attempts to control her daughter's behaviour.

I was stunned. I rarely go to these kinds of places because I get so anxious that my breathing changes and I have heart palpitations! I felt gutted that his treat was spoilt. She looked like such a normal woman, too! I just raised my eyebrows at her, but really felt like punching her in the mouth.

Was I in the wrong? I tried not to step on her mother's toes for quite some time, but really, I can't let that happen. I was hoping for a plucky passer by to jump to my defence and say 'Hey, she's right! That's not cool!', but this will have to do :D

OP posts:
MerryMarigold · 08/07/2011 20:58

I suppose what I am saying is that parents are more likely to react if they think you are angry with their kid, rather than just pointing out something in a factual, calm manner. I think this was probably the case this time.

Purplegirlie · 08/07/2011 21:01

I agree with Merrymarigold.

OP, have you thought about having some counselling or CBT to help with your confidence and self-esteem issues? I've been seeing a therapist for a year and it's really helped, I've become a lot more assertive and don't get angry as easily these days.

glassescase · 08/07/2011 21:06

Poor you. My DS was (and is ) tall and was not confident when he was young. By the time he felt able to go into the ball play place in IKEA, he was so tall they would not let him in! Don't worry, your son will develop in his own time. DS is now working in the Middle East and travels widely by himself, with great confidence.

JoySzasz · 08/07/2011 21:15

I am sorry you had such a bad time of it today.

If you are able to,start going to park (and the like) a little bit more ...you might find that actually there are more nice people than not.

I know sometimes it does not feel like that though.

For what its worth I actually have a friend who does this,in all other aspects she is totally fine ....but is unable to see her boys bad behaviour when we are at the park?

Its so weird because she is able to alert me to my son if he does something her boys don't like,but is unable to use the same eyes for her boys Confused

I would see if you can get some help with your confidence,its not fair for you to have to suffer like you described :)

smileyfacestar · 08/07/2011 21:35

STARS, YANBU. The child was obviously a little madame and certainly got this nastiness from her mother! I've experienced little girls like this in the park when my DD (4) has been playing. they refused to let her go on the slide etc so I have had to ask them to stop. The trouble is, the same day, my DD then tried this with a different child (which is completely out of character) but I stamped it out straight away and she hasn't done it since.

CheerfulYank · 08/07/2011 21:47

YANBU. I wish I'd been there, I'd have stood up for you! Angry All kids misbehave but it's up to their parents to nip it in the bud.

petisa · 08/07/2011 22:13

OP this happened me the other day at a park, a little boy was shouting at my dd (3.2 years) on the top of the slide that she wasn't allowed on. He was really shouting in her face, so I looked around for parents and when I didn't see any, said to him right away, don't shout please, it's rude, and this play equipment is for everyone to share. I got red and embarrassed and hate doing this sort of thing but believe it is the right thing to do. My dd needs to learn to do it too, as does your ds.

I think what the others mean by passive aggressive is that you were getting stressed and angry and hot under the collar, whilst not actually saying anything to the little girl or mother at first. It would have been fine to say right away to the girls the first time they were horrible that they needed to be nice and share in a firm but breezy way and save yourself the stress of getting angry. Yes there are crap parents around but hey ho, what can you do - just hold your head high and stand up for yourselves without getting too bothered about it.

petisa · 08/07/2011 22:15

Oh and yes it's true OP there are lots of nice people in parks, I'm never out of the park and this is the second time that a child has ever been rude to dd. You should go more to get yourself used to it! Good luck.

StarsAreShining · 09/07/2011 09:14

I don't think I made myself quite clear in my original post. I did actually tell the girls straight away when i was picking him up, that they were to share the equipment and it was for everybody to play on. I'd been dealing with the girl for about 15-20 minutes by the time I turned to her mother and asked her to intervene. Telling her repeatedly to stop doing that and that she cannot stop other children from playing. After trying to deal with it for that long, I really was becoming exasperated because nothing I said made a difference. I shouldn't have to bloody argue with another person's child! Her mom was sitting next to me the whole time!

I'm feeling much better about it now. I have accepted that she obviously has very strange ideas about acceptable behaviour. I just wonder whether she would have been happy to claim that it was ok for a child to behave that way if it was her child being picked on.

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SydSaid · 09/07/2011 09:24

If you come across someone like this again, when they say 'she's only a child, you know, just say 'yes, that's exactly why she needs you to tell her whats right and wrong'.

BelleDameSansMerci · 09/07/2011 09:38

Stars you need to work on your "child scaring glare". Very useful in situation like this. Smile

I don't think you were unreasonable at all. The mother was clearly in the wrong.

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