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to be annoyed that malyasia airlines

87 replies

catgirl1976 · 29/06/2011 17:43

have been allowed to ban babies in first class?? 1st airline to do it and I bet it starts a trend. How is it ok to be sat next to a crying baby if you fly economy but not if you go first? I suppose they think people travelling 1st would be happy to dump the baby in economy with the nanny. Nice family friendly policy there......

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Hammy02 · 30/06/2011 12:50

Silverfrog. 20 minutes of crying is aaaaages. Especially as yours won't be the only baby on the flight. Only takes a few babies and there is noise for a whole journey.

Gooseberrybushes · 30/06/2011 13:13

"Surely it would make more sense to make business class an adult only area."

Aha!

Good idea but it would mean the great unwashed would only have choice of economy or first. Unless there's an economy premier or something.

silverfrog · 30/06/2011 13:33

hammy, it wasn't 20 minutes of a baby crying - it was the incident I referred to earlier. If the man sitting next to dd1 had not interfered and scared her, she would not have been upset for 20 minutes. she made one initial noise, and was getting upset as she thought dd2 was upset. he pounced on that, and was very intimidating towards her. unnecessary, and counter-productive as it turned out.

given that my 2 were the only children in business class on that flight, then no, the whole 22 hour flight was not totally disrupted by that one, completely avoidable incident. I fail to see how any business person was inconvenienced by it, other than the immediate situation (which should and would not have happened if dd1 had not been sat next to an unpleasant wanker)

after8itsbliss · 30/06/2011 13:46

I think it's fine, they are still letting families with babies on business class, so don't think it makes such a difference.
However, I cannot believe someone would be so insensitive as to make a comment like this -

"theinet - people shouldn't take babies and small children on aircraft, full stop - it's selfish and very irritating to others. i would ban all under 5's from aircraft."

My parents live abroad and my dad has been too ill to travel for the past 3 years, how do you suggest I take my young children to see them theinet? Unfortunately it is not my "sense of entitlement" that make me have to fly, but if I don't my children will never see their grandparents(and believe me it is the highlight of my parents year when they see their grandchildren) and I would never see my dad. You really must live in a different world to make a comment like that.

begonyabampot · 30/06/2011 14:01

again business class is for 'everyone' who can afford it - it is not for business people (that's just the old fashioned name for it). You really think many of these business people will be happy to be be forces into economy, especially on longhaul when they are traveling with their children - I doubt it. It cost me 1yr old over 4000 quid for his business class ticket - i didn't see the airlines having a problem accepting his booking and the money.

begonyabampot · 30/06/2011 14:15

or 'it cost my 1 yr old' - paid for by my husbands work, who are happy to pay for their workers and their families.

Hammy02 · 30/06/2011 14:18

An organisation paid £4k for a kid to have a seat in business class. Fucking hell. What recession?!

begonyabampot · 30/06/2011 14:24

Over 4000 quid and he had just turned 1 and ended up sleeping on my bed with me so his was effectively empty (plus I have more then 1 child - it's not that unusual, especially as expats).

As i said do you think many of these richer guys who travel a lot are going to be happy at people campaigning for them and their families to go economy - doubt it. 'So, sorry Mrs Beckham, Miss Jollie - but economy it is for you and your brats Grin.

begonyabampot · 30/06/2011 14:26

Alas we are expats no more and have had to slum it with the rest of the cattle class - the kids look forlornly at BC as they walk through on the way to the back of the plane.

Triphop · 30/06/2011 14:41

Ha, Silverfrog, I love your story. I've flown first with the kiddies, including once with a tiny baby + older kids. The looks of horror from other passengers were precious! The kids, of course, made not one loud sound for 11 hours.

We also fly economy lots, and personally I'd rather they banned obese people and those who think it's okay to hog the armrest for the whole flight. The kids take up much less space

LolaRennt · 30/06/2011 14:48

I don't know I think its a bit shit that besides the fact that I get cramped leg room, shit food, now I have to have more screaming babies on my flight. It may discourage their coach passengers tbf, and their more of them by a long shot than first.

Chen23 · 30/06/2011 15:13

"Have to say I think the numbers of people who absolutely HAVE to travel with babies are limited... Mostly they are going on holiday or visit people which they are too young to remember."

eh?

not sure of the point you're making tbh

are we to now to judge people's worthiness for travel by whether their journey is essential or not?

pretty sure my dc's grandparents would have something to say about the non essential nature of her visits toto Australia because babies are too young to remember. I think a 60 year old is in a pretty good position to remember and surprisingly may want to spend time with their grandchildren. Presumably their wishes are trumped by businessmen?

Not that concerned by Malaysia airlines decision but feel a bit miffed that Virgin and BA considering making some flights kid free zones

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