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to keep my DD away from step father-in-law whom i dont trust

78 replies

smallveg · 25/06/2011 21:06

I have name changed for this and apologies if it is a long post.

the situation is that my dp's mum died recently - very unexpectedly and suddenly. She had 4 kids , with dp being the closest geograpically. it has been a pretty horrible time since she died and both dp and DD (4) have been distraught. DD spent every wednesday afternoon with her gran and it was a really special time in the week for them.

She was married (3rd hubby) to a man we have only superficially known for a few years. I never particularly liked him - hes a very angry man, full of the 'isms' and is always ranting about something. He is a very heavy drinker and was abusive to his wife. She called the police a couple of times because of this. He would openly insult her in front of us and in front of DD who absolutely loved her gran. I always intervened and would not allow comments like that from him, which he took as an insult to him.

I know nothing of his background - his previous life etc prior to him meeting DPs mum in 2006. He has always wanted to be a part of DDs life, which tbh I have never felt that comfortable about as i feel most times we have been in his company - he has not respected our 'rules.'
An example is a few weeks before her death when we were visiting, i was really uncomfortable with the way he was with dd. He kept asking her to come upstairs alone with him, taking her aside to give her chocolate in secret and telling her that her mum was silly and a spoilsport. It was his attitude that bugged me and after i had specifically said to him that i did not dd going upstairs without me, i found him standing at the top of the stairs calling out to her to come up and see him. At the time, i was angry but also confused as to why he wanted her on his own. I did say that if there was anything he wanted to show or tell her - it could be done downstairs with the others. He was not happy with this and we left after he told dd (in front of me )that her mum was a stuck up f*king cunt who deserved a good slapping.

this is not an isolated incident of him wanting to get her on his own - either outside to the shed, into the bathroom or upstairs but whilst he would usually sulk about my saying no - this time he went ape.

Fastforward a few weeks. His wife has died and its all a bit crap. he is ringing me up drunk every couple of nights saying that my dd is the only thing keeping him going, he wants her to come and visit / stay overnight and he wants to take over the wednesday afternoons. his mother whom i have only met a couple of times during the funeral etc has also rang me up saying that i have no right to keep him from DD.

i dont trust this man, i know very little of him and what i have seen shows him in my eyes to be abusive and controlling. Not the kind of man I want in her life.

am i being paranoid / unreasonable to actually never want this jumped up wee terrier of a man anywhere near my child??

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MrsTittleMouse · 25/06/2011 21:28

Trust your instinct - women especially are raised to be "good" and polite and above all "nice" and abusers know this and use it. Keep your little DD well away from him!

AngryBeaver · 25/06/2011 21:29

He said WHAT??? If anyone had spoken like that infront of my child,it would be the last time they saw any of us! Is that usual language in the family? I just wondered as there is no reference to anyone being shocked/appalled/horrified at this outburst.
I mean,seriously?
He sounds utterly hideous.
Cut all ties.
Block his number he is nothing to you
oh,by the way,did you mean your dh was 100% behind you,or was all for the the guy having access to dd?
Either way,he sounds a scumbag,keep him away

HansieMom · 25/06/2011 21:31

Everybody's right. He shouldn't be within a mile of your daughter.

MrsTittleMouse · 25/06/2011 21:32

That's just the kind of thing that these abusive men say -
"Are you calling me a paedophile?"
"No"
"Then there is no need to keep her away from me, is there?"

They are very good at twisting your words and making you uncomfortable for feeling suspicious when there are very good reasons for you to be. Hoping that they will make you feel so awkward that you let them get whatever they want so as to prove that you're not a nasty suspicious person.

I had that technique used on me so many times when I was young and didn't want to sleep with a tosser who fancied another notch on the bedpost. I was called a frigid bitch more times than I can count. I don't care.

MissVerinder · 25/06/2011 21:33

Ugh. As previous posters have said, trust your instincts and steer well clear. ANY funny business (abusive phone calls etc) report it to the police.

pigletmania · 25/06/2011 21:36

YANBU, never ever let him near her again. He has NO legal right to her, what a bastard. Don't you ever allow him access to her NEVER.

hairfullofsnakes · 25/06/2011 21:36

You owe him nothing and you dont need to explain ANYTHING to him! Just cut contact and get a restraining order if you need to.DONT engage in any conversations as to why - he will only twist things, just block his phone and cut contact. Don't engage in any conversations with him at all.

stella1w · 25/06/2011 21:37

he sounds very unpleasant and dangerous. steer well clear. YANBU

wonderfultykes · 25/06/2011 21:37

Frankly I'd report him - i'd worry about potential for him to to harm anyne's DD. And can you change your number? Trust your instincts UTTERLY.

smallveg · 25/06/2011 21:37

angrybeaver - that kind of language is his norm but not for the rest of the family. It was the last time we were anywhere near him - before MIL died. MIL was mortified that he had said this to me but equally she was defending his behaviour in that 'he just loves yr DD'

DP is 100% behind me. I know he is caught up in the other siblings saying - 'what is the problem here, why cant you go visit him etc'. There have also been a couple of emails from them suggesting that i am being paranoid and over protective. This hasnt changed dps mind at all about step father.

DP & I have to go to their house to clear out her stuff. FIL doesnt want to do it and none of the other siblings will come up north to do this. it means we will have to see him at least once more. DD will not be coming with us.

thanks for your posts. I knew i was right and was not going to deviate from a total block of access but guess we have to be crystal clear to him that there will be no more contact with her.

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MorelliOrRanger · 25/06/2011 21:39

No way YANBU - how dare he a) use that language around your DD and b) use it about you.

Tell him to sling his hook and if he asks why tell him his language is not acceptable and he behaves too underhand to be anywhere near her.

Also if his mum calls again (its none of her business anyway), but ask her really would she want a man who called anyone a fXXXXXX CXXX around a minor to be around a minor.

Disgusting man bleugh.

BTW sorry for your loss Sad

lovemyskinnyjeans · 25/06/2011 21:40

Keep your child away from this man!

pigletmania · 25/06/2011 21:40

Well if your DP's siblings are so concerned about him, why don't THEY go and visit more or be more involved. This man is nothing to you, like others have said you owe him nothing, and the way he is towards you noway!

MorelliOrRanger · 25/06/2011 21:41

Your DP's siblings are being stupid unless they don't know about the language.

mumblebum · 25/06/2011 21:41

YANBU, even if your instincts weren't screaming at you, the fact that he has behaved so appallingly to you means you owe him nothing IMO. Just because something bad has happened to him doesn't make him a good person. Keep well away. He has no claim to your DD at all.

pigletmania · 25/06/2011 21:42

Keep your dd away, you owe your child this, not a vile abusive, nasty man, who might hurt your dd.

lovemyskinnyjeans · 25/06/2011 21:42

And cut him off, as others have advised.

AngryBeaver · 25/06/2011 21:45

I see.
It seems odd that your mil defended his language to your dd though,if I may say. My dd also has a step-grandfather,and if he ever used the c word to her,he would be out the door,his arse stinging from the boot it had just recieved.
Still,you're out of it now.
Tell your dh's family,if they are that fucking bothered go and visit him themselves.
Can I just say.He does seem overly keen (his mother's call etc) to gain access to dd..could you warn the school/nursery, that he is allowed no where near her?

smallveg · 25/06/2011 21:46

"He can fuck the fuckity fuck right out of your life and when he gets there he dance the fuckdango."

love that line and in speaking to him - it may the only time i will have to use it!

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pigletmania · 25/06/2011 21:46

Its worrying that he wants her alone, and considering his background and personality NOWAY!!!!!

AngryBeaver · 25/06/2011 21:47

received (sorry about spelling,am up and down to baby)

hobbgoblin · 25/06/2011 21:48

Has he EVER been alone with your DD?

MJISMARRYJOTTER · 25/06/2011 21:49

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supercal · 25/06/2011 21:50

I would get your DH to make it clear to his family that he considers not seeing this man a child protection issue (for various reasons - the verbal abuse of you, the insistence on getting her alone, the DV against your MIL, the heavy drinking ...)

I wouldn't encourage any of his relatives with young children to go and visit the man unless they're planning on leaving the children at home.

hairfullofsnakes · 25/06/2011 21:50

Dance the fuckdango - genius! I'm using that from now on!

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