to expect an £8 chicken to at least be free-range?

[HannahHack]

Just inspected my Sainos Taste the Difference chicken and noticed that it is Freedom Foods approved and not free-range.
I'm not too bothered about animal welfare tbh, but I thought for £8 you could at least expect something free-range!
i got it online so couldn't see the logo.
AIBU?

Aldi's free range are less than a fiver I think, but doesn't help your delivery issue!

I am not being judgy at all. I was merely passing comment on the fact that these days, with people having more access than ever to the facts about animal welfare (there was no Youtube when I was looking into animal cruelty 20 odd years ago) its a bit off to hear someone on a thinking-persons forum actually say they are not bothered about animal welfare.

And what do you mean by 'peeps like me'? Do you actually just mean someone who IS concerned about the suffering of factory farmed meat?

Anyway, surely, if you meant to buy free range, you DO have a conscience?

I must admit it's easier to have a conscience if you can afford one.

I try to buy free range, fair trade and all that now.

But when I divorced my 1st Husband I had 2 kids to feed and lived on a shoe string budget...therefore I bought what I could afford and mostly it wasn't free range or fair trade.

If your point is the price (rather than farming), I don't understand why you clicked on an 8 quid chicken in the first place. The price was never in doubt.

OP is straightforward

She saw an £8 chicken and bought it assuming it to be free range at that price as she wanted free range
When she got it it was cruelty-max

She is shocked at £8 for a bog-standard chicken.

So am I TBH.

And OP and others please note organic is not the same as free range and vice-versa

It wasn't cruelty max. It was Freedom Food checked.

Organic is better than free range.

Chrissakes it was a joke!

And FYI "organic" simply refers to feed, drugs etc. Nothing to do with where it lives.

You may be referring to a specific certification when you say it is "better". The word itself does not have anything to do with living conditions.

It wasn't cruelty max, it was "slightly less cruel", the value ones at £3 a go will have been cruelty max.

:o at "Cruelty max" by the way, it sounds as if the farmers are all sat round a table in a dark room smoking and thinking of ways to make the chickens' lives worse!

Is this wrong then, orange?

The soil association says clearly that space given to animals is an important element of organic.

Even tesco clearly state that organic chickens have at least the same amount of space as free range.

Please note, orange, you are wrong.

The word "organic" is not defined by the soil association. The soil association have their own certification which specifies amount of space etc. However not all food labelled organic is certified by the soil association.

For that you need a soil association label.

Not really true, either, as many farms and companies do keep to SA guidelines.

And it is not true to say 'organic' has nothing to do with living space.

Many large suppliers have signed up to soil association standards.

That does not alter the fact that the word "organic" refers to feed, pesticides and the like, while free range refers to space. The fact that there is a predominant certification in the UK that carries both does not alter the fact that this is not what the word "organic" means.

I can't believe you are getting so het about about me suggesting that people read labels carefully. To avoid disappointment as per the OP.

Many supermarkets use labelling which is designed to confuse and confound. A chicken labelled free range is not the same as an organic chicken. An organic chicken which is not certified may not have had the same life as a soil association certified chicken. Pre-prepared products which say made in the UK might only have been assembled here, with the ingredients sourced from around the world. Fish described as sustainable may not actually be so (there is certification there too, to look out for).

All of these things are important when choosing food and the supermarkets and manufacturers labelling can be misleading or sometimes downright wrong. People should know this.