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to think this Channel 5 film crew were ignorant selfish pigs

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biggestbrother · 15/06/2011 13:13

namechange for friend's sake - see below please!

Out with friend this morning for coffee with DC. I am so proud of her - she has just got into her new home, spent 2 months in refuge after getting away from abusive violent controlling evil twunt of a man. So just having coffee outside cafe, all DCs having early lunch, chatting away and a van pulls up and suddenly theres two blokes, one with a film camera and the other one with a mic and they start interviewing people, stopping them on the street and asking them if they prefer nicole scherzinger (spelling?) or cheryl cole. It is a busy high street with plenty of traffic and people walking by but they are close enough that we can hear they are saying they are from Ch.5.

friend starts shaking and shooing DCs along to hurry up eating and I say whats wrong? Was immediate change in her. She says they're filming theyre filming they're going to see us and he is going to know where we are (she has a steel wire in her jaw and still in pain to breath 6 months after he broke her sternum and several ribs by holding her up against wall and punching her repeatedly, vicious fuck would always say he was good with his hands, sorry going off topic but anyway so you know what she she is so afraid of)

so i go up and say would you mind not filming here my friend and I do not want to be filmed and I lied and said I was the one who had been in abusive relationship and had to run away so that was why I was asking not to film near us (we were effectively backdrop to where they were stopping people to ask them qns). They say oh were not filming now, no I say but when you are can you just not move along a bit so we can finish lunch, but we're not even filming you they say. We will point in the other direction they say.

I am a bit fucked off by this stage but sit back down (DCs are squabbling over something, baby screaming etc). Friend is still nervous and on edge. And then I see they are still fucking filming with camera pointed towards us. I asked them once more to not film us and I said they were going to force us to move and leave our lunch we had paid for and they just repeated the same thing. I went in to get the manager of cafe and when I came back out they were just jumping into the back of their (illegaly) parked blue van and driving off.

So AIBU to expect not to be filmed for national TV unless I want to be (or freind wants to be really but you know what I mean?) They're reassurances were pretty crap and it was quite clear I was just meant to trust them that we wouldn't end up on TV. I even said to them look I know its a bit paranoid but I was beaten within inch of my life, don't want to repeat the experience if he finds me. The cafe we were sitting outside was not a chain cafe and afaik is peculiar to this particular high st (did not mention this to friend obviously) so was thinking it would be easy for her partner to possibly see her new local high street (flat within 10 mins walking distance).

I guess people who think its important to interview people about whether they prefer nicole's legs to cheryl;s (just one of the insights we could overhear) think being beaten so badly your jaw clicks everytime you eat doesn't warrant them moving their stupid camera even 10 yards down the road. GRRRRRRRR.

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Ealingkate · 15/06/2011 14:07

Hi I didn't read all the thread but just wanted to say that one of the mums in DD2's class is a news presenter for Channel 5 (Catherine Jones) - would you like me to text her??

veritythebrave · 15/06/2011 14:07

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Mamaz0n · 15/06/2011 14:11

Please be assured that i very much doubt you or your friend will appear in any shots shown.

But yanbu to think they should have acted with more sensitivity. Whether they filmed at the moment or not you were clearly distressed by their presence and should have changed position.

biggestbrother · 15/06/2011 14:15

Ealingkate - was a voxpop thing Cheryl Cole vs Nicole cba to spell her surname wrong again I dont watch a lot of Ch 5 so have no idea who the little bloke was doing the interviewing. Would you be able to ask who I should complain to/ask footage not to be shown please?

diddl - no they weren't filming us in the sense they wanted us in the frame, however they could have shot from any angle even on the same spot without having us as backdrop or even as i was asking just move along a bit which considering they were already illegally parked I don't understand why they didnt anyway (small car park with spaces right opposite where we were sitting where i had parked)

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wearenotinkansas · 15/06/2011 14:17

Haven't read all the posts but you should do the following:

  1. Get on to Channel 5 - web or phone and get complaints procedure.
  2. Tell them they have filmed your friend (and circumstances ) and also your children without consent. Explain its an abuse/custody issue and is urgent
  3. They should be able to edit your friend and her children out. Doesn't sound like its exactly broadcast critical.
  4. Say if they don't comply you will comply to Ofcom.

They should be able to sort this out without too much difficulty.

diddl · 15/06/2011 14:18

I do agree that they could have pointed in a diff direction though just to put you/your friend at ease.

wearenotinkansas · 15/06/2011 14:18

sorry "will complain to Ofcom"

biggestbrother · 15/06/2011 14:21

i think it was the yeh yeh brushoff that pissed me off even when i had said (nicely i though) look i might be being a bit paranoid but when you've been beaten up within inch of your life etc etc and it was just yeh yeh.

Also just to veer off topic i know we're all on CCTV all the time and it got me thinking i mean if you were in witness protection you just wouldnt go out right? has put different perspective for me on nurseries not taking photos of kids etc.

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JudysJudgement · 15/06/2011 14:22

why didnt you just

a) move tables away from the window
b) swap chairs so your mate was facing inwards and not outwards

if you think about interviews of this sort on the telly, you will notice that its just the face of the one being interview, not usually all around

and the chances of her ex seeing the programme and seeing her on it are miniscule imo

who watches C5 in any case?!?!?!

biggestbrother · 15/06/2011 14:22

wearenotinkansas - like your plan. googling now. just keep getting stupid demand 5 stuff.

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wearenotinkansas · 15/06/2011 14:27

biggestbrother - If you're still looking try the number in the link below. I think its the head office number but they should be able to point you in the right direction.

Or there is an email form on the Channel 5 website.

about.channel5.com/customer-services/contact-details

LineRunner · 15/06/2011 14:29

Well it's done now. So complain to Channel 5, and insist your friend's face is pixellated; complain to the Police and let Channel 5 know that you have done so; and seek advice from the refuge.

I think it might have better to abandon the lunch given the potential consequences. Lunch is just lunch. Sometimes you have to just walk away, depensing on what's at risk.

That doesn't excuse the film crew's intrusive behaviour by the way. I'm just saying that sometimes you have to know when to leave a crap situation.

biggestbrother · 15/06/2011 14:33

probably right linerunner - the noise the kids would have made when we took their lunch of them, told them to stop eating, got baby back into pram etc and dragged them off sharpish would have drowned out any voxpops shit they were filming!

thank you kansas - disappearing for a bit to see what i can do thanks all for help

nice to know not just me even if i am a bit surprised that others would think it their responsibility to move if they dont want to be filmed - makes me think we must have all signed some consent forms in our sleep some time ago!!!

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hettie · 15/06/2011 14:33

In theory you have to have something called a release form (the bit of paper you sign with your permision) from EVERYONE who appears anywhere in shot. But this is a grey area when it comes to news/the public interest (obviously some news worthy people don't always want to fess up that they've been nobbing someone they shoudn't/were diving over the limit/invaded an african country etc etc). For the life of me I can't see how this could possibly come under the public interest, sounds more like either some crap documentary or longer "news" piece.... So the good news is they cannot have been intending to show any footage of you- nonetheless it was insensitive.
Complaining might be tricky becasue it might actualy be being made by an indepedent production company for Ch5. However, Ch5 will have a press department- just phone the main number and ask to be put though. Explain the situation and ask that they track this crew down (leave a message- but if you do ask to be phoned back within 24 hrs), if you get no joy with the polite reponse phone back and tell them that you are goign to get the media/mumsnet and womens aid to name and shame the buggers.....

Ealingkate · 15/06/2011 14:49

I will send her a link to the thread and see what she says.

ZombiePlan · 15/06/2011 15:42

I think YANBU - your posts indicate that the film crew seemed dismissive, so it's no wonder you don't feel too confident that they actually took you seriously.

I would suggest contacting channel 5. You need to make them aware of the anything identifying was broadcast, your friend would be at risk. You need to take control of the situation rather than waiting and hoping everything is ok - it probably would be, but how awful if it wasn't.

wearenotinkansas · 15/06/2011 19:17

no probs. hope it gets sorted ok.

SugarPasteFrog · 15/06/2011 19:35

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LollipopViolet · 15/06/2011 19:42

They're breaking the law. If anyone refuses consent to be filmed, even in the background of a shot, the film crew has to comply.

FWIW, they also need a signed release form for each person they interview.

Contact C5 with their registration plate and a description of them if you can (will help because it may be a company vehicle).

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 15/06/2011 20:42

I don't know if what you're being told is true, OP. I was in shot on news footage, quite clearly, without being asked. It was just incidental but obviously your friend's circumstances should be taken into consideration for safety reasons.

LollipopViolet · 15/06/2011 20:47

Lying, I'm on a film production course, we're told you either get a release form, OR you put up copious amounts of signage to say that you're filming. For interviews though, you def need a form. I assumed that was law but could be wrong, being a student and all :)

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 15/06/2011 20:57

You might be right, Lollipop, I wondered at it because the building I was visiting is often filmed and there are always people walking in or out of it. Other than the bank of cameras, there are no warnings of filming or anybody asking for releases.

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