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Just spent the evening with my mother...

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LadyFlumpalot · 14/06/2011 21:38

And I am now very upset. DF has suggested I come on here and let it all pour out...

Right, back story. My parents divorced 20 years ago now and have both moved on since, mum and step-dad married for 14 years, dad and step-mum for 15 years with an 11 year old daughter, my half-sister (whom I love as much as if she were a full sister and am immensely proud and protective of).

My mum can be a strange one, she can be extremely nasty at times.

My dad has been very, very ill through stress. He has had a heart attack recently, and also suffered from severe depression. He was put on some serious pills that made him forget who his family were. A very upsetting time for all, especially for half-sis (DHS?). She was sobbing in my arms one day, terrified our dad was going to die.

Anyway tonight my mum and step-dad popped round, straight away my mum started bitching at me - why was the kitchen a bit messy, why had I already put DS to bed...etc, etc.

Step-dad asked how my dad was, I said he was much better recently thank you, and how much of a relief it was. I said that poor half-sis was a lot happier now that dad was better too. My mum suddenly hissed "Well, they shouldn't have had that child should they. Bloody stupid idiots having a child! She is a weird child as well, wierd looking"

I ignored her, saw my step-dad shoot her a look though.

The topic changed to losing things. I said how DF's mum had lost a ring, it had just gone walkies one day. My mum piped up that my dad and step-mum had apparently once accused my childminder/cleaner of stealing things from them. She took great delight in telling me that they had apparently been spreading malicious rumours about this woman and then, to quote her "when that stupid woman and your father found the stuff they didn't even apologise!"

Again, I ignored her, got up and fetched a drink. She came after me and asked if I was ok. I asked her not to be nasty about my father. Pointed out they had been divorced for twenty years, that I didn't care what happened and that it upset me to hear her talk how she did. I said that my sister had not done anything wrong and was only a child. She did not ask to be born to her ex-husband. Mum was un-repentant to say the least and spent the rest of the evening picking me, DF, our son and our house to pieces.

On re-reading this it seems really petty, I'm in two minds if I should just delete it all. I'm sorry it's long, and badly punctuated/worded. Really upset.

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LadyFlumpalot · 14/06/2011 22:16

Well the rant has helped, and seeing your reactions has helped me realise it is as serious as it feels to me. The suggestions from you all about distancing myself are brilliant.

It's hard to do though. Does anyone else instantly regress to the age of 5 when faced with their mothers?

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midori1999 · 14/06/2011 22:19

It sounds awful for you, some of the comments your Mum has made are dreadful and you did very well to stay so calm in the face of it all.

LadyFlumpalot · 14/06/2011 22:19

AgentZigZag - Because she's my mother and I love her. She does love me as well, when I had DS I was rushed to hospital (failed homebirth). She was distraught, in absolute pieces with worry over me. When someone else picks on me she is my biggest champion...

It's like Jekyll and Hyde.

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gethelp · 14/06/2011 22:20

Sounds to me like she's looking for a bit of drama, your focus has been on your Dad and sister, and she's jealous. It's miserable when your Mum doesn't behave like you would want her to. You sound as though you were very good in the way you dealt with her though! Deep breaths!

Curiousmama · 14/06/2011 22:21

Yes agree am afraid she is toxic, very negative. Does she have many friends? She sounds quite jealous of you tbh. You know what they say though you can choose your friends. Hope you get stronger and manage to distance yourself?

redwineformethanks · 14/06/2011 22:22

I turn into a toddler sometimes when my Mum is around. Your greatest supporters can also bring out the worst in you - you're not alone there!

floyjoy · 14/06/2011 22:24

LadyF - It's really hard because if you try and alter the relationship then you are trying to take control away from your own parent. Most people revert back to being the child when with their parents. It's natural. When we are with them we tend to play out the same relationship we have always had with them - maybe that is toxic (as animula says) maybe more positive (with your dad?). What might would be some counselling (CBT maybe) not because there's anything 'wrong' with you but because it could help you assess your relationship with her and find new ways of dealing with it by taking control. It can help with family/relationship stuff when you can't see a way through cos you're stuck in the same patterns of behaviour as always.

darleneoconnor · 14/06/2011 22:25

It sounds like your DM could do with some counselling/therapy. Has she ever had any? Do you know why she wanted to leave your Dad?

LadyFlumpalot · 14/06/2011 22:31

curiousmama - No, she does not have too many friends, and TBH, she seems to spend most of her time bitching about the friends she does have!

Redwine - Grin

floyjoy - I have never really considered the idea of counselling, I am quite a private person, but thank you. I will look into it.

darleneoconnor - I don't really, I think it was a personality clash. I think she just ended up hating him rather than loving him. I have never wanted to ask. I spent years thinking it must have been because of me. I was 7 when they divorced.

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floyjoy · 14/06/2011 22:37

Counselling can be really helpful - lots of moments when you can actually hear the penny crash to the ground and spin off. It can help you use strategies to protect yourself - useful cos you can't really change such deep-rooted behaviour in another person. You've spoken to her about it and it hasn't changed her behaviour.

LadyFlumpalot · 14/06/2011 22:40

Animula - Thank you, your posts are lovely.

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animula · 14/06/2011 22:46

Ah, thanks. I feel we're both sitting here, frowning, in the "Difficult Parent" corner. Oh well. As Scarlett O'Hara says: "Tomorrow is another day!"

LadyFlumpalot · 14/06/2011 22:50

I feel a lot better now. Sitting here, ranting to you lot, scoffing the entire tub of a bowl of Green and Blacks choccy ice-cream and laughing at the spunky essay thread...

What would I do without Mumsnet?!?

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theinet · 14/06/2011 23:54

she sounds like a bitch.

LadyGok · 15/06/2011 00:06

She sounds narcissistic to me.

I would have her at arms length for a bit if you cant tell her to fuck off out of your lives.

TheSecondComing · 15/06/2011 00:16

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quiddity · 15/06/2011 01:52

"I was rushed to hospital (failed homebirth). She was distraught, in absolute pieces with worry over me."

That sounds like narcissism, not love?rather than trying to make herself useful she was making herself the centre of attention. Ditto her getting enraged when someone criticises you?she sees it as an attack on her.

Dorje · 15/06/2011 02:30

I agree Quiddity.
I don't think this woman actually cares about Op at all... sorry.

My story is eerily similar:
I too was a "womb wrecker" and my mum blamed me for all of her 'woman troubles' including a hysterectomy eventually afterwards.... no more kids after me either.

I also had a failed hb and my Mum just slammed me for having a crash CS - she called me a failure. I think I internalised the difficult birth she had from all her terrible stories she went on and on and on about in her poor me way.

According to her, I also am (useless etc) just like my father... blah blah.

Very common patterns, from quite a toxic, narcissistic person.

I have thrown my mum out of my house, last incident was when I wasn't rising to the bait and she screamed "you bitch" at me, and I just told her to "get out". I always feel sooo much better when I go no or low contact.

Maybe this might be a way for you to regain your life!! Just say NO Grin

Curiousmama · 15/06/2011 11:17

The womb wrecking thing would do it for me, totally awful Sad Glad mumsnet has helped you though op Smile

LadyFlumpalot · 15/06/2011 11:39

Right, I have calmed down some now and have made a decision. I am due to spend the day with her on Saturday, so I will see how that goes. If she says even one out of place comment I will tell her calmly and politely that she either sorts her attitude out or she will never be allowed unsupervised access to DS (6 months).

I don't want her views on my father to taint his feelings towards his grandfather when he is old enough to understand. It's not fair.

Hopefully that will shock her into realising how out of order she is being.

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Dorje · 15/06/2011 14:39

ladyFlumpalot, i never leave my DD with my mother, ever, ever, ever. Just one of those decisions I made, and stand by.

My DD is too important to risk it.
When I told my mother it wouldn't be a good idea for her to look after my DD and I had made that decision, my mother countered by saying in a very sour grapes way, "well, I'm retired anyway".

Stand firm. You don't have to have her in your life. I give you permission to decide and implement your own level of contact.

redwineformethanks · 15/06/2011 15:07

I'd be very wary of bringing your DD into this. However I do agree your mum needs to know that if she criticises your dad you're not willing to listen to it

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