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To be hurt at things DP's friend said about me when pg

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CeliaDeBohun · 07/06/2011 14:22

I know I shouldn't care, it's not important anymore and there's nothing I can do about it anyway but this has still really got to me.

DS is nearly one now. DP absolutely dotes on him and is a wonderful, responsible dad. He's 30, was nearly 29 when I conceived DS. My pregnancy was planned and was wanted by both of us although it happened sooner than either of us expected. We had only been together a year beforehand but decided to go for it as we were committed to each other and I was 33 and starting to get a bit stressy about the biological clock thing.

He has a very wide circle of friends but is particularly close to this very clicquey (sp?) little group who, I felt, always resented me appearing on the scene. Apparently his previous long term girlfriend didn't get on with them at all, so he never hung out with them and her at the same time. Although I didn't feel very welcoming vibes from them, I forced myself to make a real effort as A: it's polite, B: they were some of his closest friends so they werent going anywhere and it was in my interests to get along with them, and C: I didn't want them to be able to say I was a horrible cow who had a problem with his mates.

So anyway, I gritted my teeth and did my best to get along with them. I accepted that they were slightly territorial where he was concerned and I wasn't expecting to develop genuine friendships with them until I'd been with DP for a good few years, if ever. When I got pregnant, I was dreading him telling them because I had a feeling they'd strongly disapprove. Actually, this went for quite a few of his friends, not just this mini clique. As it happens, nothing negative was said to him directly but there was a distinct lack of enthusiasm from a number of people.

None of this should really matter now that DS is here, and the three of us are a very happy little family. But we're both aware that not all of DP's friends are pleased for him. One girl in particular, part of the mini clique and somebody that DP considered to be like a younger sister, has barely contacted him since DS was born. This has shocked DP because he honestly saw her as one of his best mates and, he says, if something as life changing as having a baby happened to her there's no way he'd just drop her from his life and show no interest whatsoever in her child.

DP reckons they just don't get that you can actually have a child and still be the same person. He's been disappointed by their shallowness but accepts that that's the way things are. I do too but was still quite upset when a mutual friend told me the other night that the girl who I just mentioned (the little sister one) had been ranting about me when I was pregnant - moaning about how they had lost DP now, that I had succeeded in trapping him and that I had been taking drugs while pregnant (I most certainly did not!). I feel quite hurt and can't stop thinking about this. I KNOW it doesn't matter now but can't help feeling shocked and upset. Ok, she's DP's friend and not mine but I tried really hard with her, thought we got on reasonably well and now I'm stunned to hear that she's said these things about me.

Sorry it's so long Blush Thanks for reading.

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Cocoflower · 07/06/2011 15:52

She sounds a lot like DH ex female friend- even down to the weird brother/sister thing.

She maybe wasn't as bad as the girl but in the end dh had enough of her as she gradually got worse and he ended the friendship as it was just bringing no positive influence into his life.

MadamDeathstare · 07/06/2011 16:13

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CeliaDeBohun · 07/06/2011 16:23

Either say something, or say to your DP that you simply don't want anything to do with her - and let him make up his own mind. If he's got any balls, he should be thinking the same thing. Because she's shown herself to be a shit friend to him, more than anything. Would he ever dream of spreading a rumour that her latest boyfriend was a thief, or a drug addict, or violent, just because he didn't like her situation? What kind of friend would that make him if he did? Ask him that, and say that you can do without that kind of friendship, thanks - so you won't be pursuing anything with her except avoidance.

I think I'll do exactly that! She does have a boyfriend now and DP is really happy for her (because he is actually happy for his mates when good things happen in their lives Hmm). There's no way he'd ever go around slating her bloke behind her back, so it's a good comparison to make to him. Thanks Smile

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SenoritaViva · 07/06/2011 16:30

Celia does you DP know what you heard? I would tell him by saying you know I'm feeling really upset at the moment because X told me that Y said this. I know it's all lies but still feeling a bit emotional about it, can you give me a hug and tell me it will all be fine? (or something along those lines).

I think this is important because

A) His friend is not being a true friend or supportive, I think he should know this rather than being 100% all smiles when he next sees her. It will also make sure that next time you see her he can 'protect you' and if you do end up swiping her he'll at least know why!
B) He may want to put the record straight in an unemotional way
C) Oh god C was the best point and my pregnant brain has forgotten

SenoritaViva · 07/06/2011 16:31

X posted sorry, glad you'll tell DP

CeliaDeBohun · 07/06/2011 16:32

that he's so weak that he has to be under your thumb

A lot of his mates (male AND female) have this attitude towards their male friends' partners. There's a lot of comments about them being "allowed" out or not. They tend to assume that no man could willingly spend time alone with his girlfriend. It really does my head in.

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roz1982 · 07/06/2011 16:38

I think it's about time you started to show some hostile feelings!! Who the hell do they think they are?? Specially this drug accuser girl, she sounds like a right d*ck. Who needs enemies with friends like that?? I would have definitely confronted her, I wouldn't be able to help myself - I would want to crush her with words; I'm getting jolly cross for you just thinking about it!! As for this other girl trying to tempt him out for a drink who the hell does she think she is too??? Honestly, if my OH's friends were behaving like this I'd be horrified and encouraging him to drop the nasty ones, sharpish.

AgentZigzag · 07/06/2011 17:58

But to show her hostility roz, would be saying to the woman that she gives a fuck what she says about her.

I wouldn't give her the satisfaction.

Anyone who matters will know you're not the kind of person who'd do what she's accusing you of, it's just a bad reflection on the woman.

cuttingpicassostoenails · 07/06/2011 20:28

Oh dear...small town mentality. Fear is what sparks it off and keeps it burning. Your OH moved out of the safe zone and made a success of it. Their fear is that they cannot do the same and therefore they have to close ranks, destroy the cause of their fear (you) close their eyes and hope that the big, nasty world will go away.

Tribalism is all they have. They certainly have no sense of individuality, no confidence in themselves as competent beings outside the group.

Stuff 'em my dear.

Especially the silly little girl with an elevated sense of her own importance in your DHs life.

Yours sincerely

Toenails...who is feeling very cross.

working9while5 · 07/06/2011 21:53

Dh comes from a small town and one of his group of friends tried his hardest to split us up in our 20's because he felt that my dh should be dating "one of them" Hmm.

They don't speak now, of course.

It's incredibly stupid of her/them to let their feelings be known and to be so obvious about it because naturally, your dp's loyalty is with you now. They want their tribalistic way but they won't have it and in behaving this way they will lose your dp from their lives. I feel they will have done so by now. Shame for him in ways, it is sad to lose people even when they're not that worthy really.. but it's hard to see that link to your past erased and be confronted by the shallowness of friendships you thought were solid.

maddy68 · 07/06/2011 21:58

I dont think she has 'feelings for him' I think its more that people grow apart when you have a baby, priorities change, you are no longer seen as 'fun' to be with, cant go out as much etc.
My own children are grown up now and I have to be honest I have dropped some friends with young children for the same reasons. Plus, I just dont want to talk about babies - and TBF my friends with young children really dont have much else to talk about - the gulf widens sometimes and friends drift apart

working9while5 · 07/06/2011 22:17

And that's an excuse for saying someone has taken drugs during pregnancy, maddy68?

You can drift away from people without being callous, rude or lying through your teeth to defame them in order to validate a decision. I don't think it's about drifting away from people at all. I also think that when people can't do a bit of social fakery with their friends at key points in their life when they are naturally self-absorbed, it really isn't much of a friendship. It's pretty selfish, don't you think?

vmcd28 · 08/06/2011 07:58

Maddy68, you've dropped your friends with young kids? Wow. I hope you had more support from friends when your kids were young

HowlingBitch · 08/06/2011 09:08

Eek this is a tricky one! She sounds horrible, how old is she?

I'd be frightened about bringing this toxic person back into my life good or bad. Tell DP of course but take the high road (I doubt you could ever sink as low as her)

The best thing you can do if you ever see her again is be happy, well balanced and care free about her opinions. The worst thing you could do is to let her know she can get to you by saying these things IMO that opens a whole new can of worms. Once people like this know what upsets you they tend to play on it. Just sit back, enjoy your family and let this bitter person be bitter! Also be delighted she doesn't contact DP anymore, It would be ten times worse if they were best buddies!

comedycentral · 08/06/2011 09:23

How childish of them all, they need to grow up. You have tried so hard by the sound of it. I think she is jealous too.

TotallyLovely · 08/06/2011 09:51

I had an ex like this. He and his mates came from a small town and all looked down on everyone else. When I started seeing him they would all just give me funny looks (except one who actually had social skills).

One night we all went out for one of their birthdays. We had dinner and I sat in the first chair I saw and my ex sat next to me. All fine etc until after we had left my ex told me that I had broken a rule, apparently the seat I sat in was where the birthday person would usually sit although the seat opposite would have been equally fine for the birthday person, but apparently I shouldn't have sat in either seeing as it wasn't my birthday and I was new to the group. WTF! He also later informed me that I shouldn't wear lipstick (actually refused to leave the house with me) as none of the other girlfriends did.

He got dumped!

CeliaDeBohun · 08/06/2011 11:35

Also be delighted she doesn't contact DP anymore, It would be ten times worse if they were best buddies!

Oh god, you are so right there - it was bad enough when he was really close to them and I had the feeling that they disliked me in spite of the surface politeness. It would be so much worse to have her around now that her hostility's been confirmed.

TotallyLovely that's utterly pathetic - well done you for binning him (and them) so quickly!

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CeliaDeBohun · 08/06/2011 11:46

HowlingBitch she's 27. None of these people are young. They're just very, very insular. They hardly know anyone who didn't go to their school. In a way, I can see why they like it that way as it clearly gives them a real sense of community and of having roots in the area. On the other hand, they're not really interested in knowing anybody else and, as loads of people have said, they're stuck in a teenagey, gossipy, backstabby mindset that most of us moved on from long ago!

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CeliaDeBohun · 08/06/2011 11:53

?Shame for him in ways, it is sad to lose people even when they're not that worthy really.. but it's hard to see that link to your past erased and be confronted by the shallowness of friendships you thought were solid.

Yup, he considered her to be one of his very best friends so he's been seriously miffed at her just dropping off the radar the way she has done. Obviously I think it proves her to be the shallow, self centred dullard I always believed her to be but he thought better of her than that.

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CeliaDeBohun · 08/06/2011 12:01

Tribalism is all they have. They certainly have no sense of individuality, no confidence in themselves as competent beings outside the group.

Thanks Picasso, that is so true.

Thanks everybody who's replied, I'm really grateful for the support and advice. Sorry for the flurry of posts just now, I'm mumsnetting from my phone and am finding it tricky to quote different people and reply all in one post Blush

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Balsam · 08/06/2011 13:42

Living well is the best revenge. If you see her, be perfectly friendly and just gush about your wonderfully cute DS, how it's made you and DP so happy, what a wonderful father he is and isn't everything so wonderful and so on.

saffy85 · 08/06/2011 13:53

YANBU they all sound like crap friends if they can't be happy for your DP that he has started a family with someone he really loves and cares about.

As for his close female friend she does sound jealous- bet lots of other people have noticed this too which makes her seem sad and pathetic loser to them when she rants on about what a cow she thinks you are. As for saying you trapped him god that makes me soooo mad when people have that attitude Angry like a man is incapable of taking charge of his own contraception arrangements!

Honeybee79 · 08/06/2011 13:57

yanbu.

Jealousy? Not just that you have a man that she might like but also that the 3 of you have made a life together and now your DP has a family and not simply mates.

Can't your DP talk to her and tell her it's just not on and she needs to get over it?

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