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TO SAY I LIKE THE BBC....but the near £300 license fee needs questioning..Lets question

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ScousyFogarty · 03/06/2011 09:35

BBC and COMPULSORY LICENSE FEE...(Paid by rich and poor alike.)

It has been suggested that the Beebs automatic cash-flow from rich and poor, should be looked at as the fee gets closer to £300 a year.

Victoria Derbyshire mentions this on her TWITTER site. (Dont know if she has ever done it on her programme.?)

You will notice that when a big name has a book out; they get interviewed on many BBC TV and radion shows. (They are usually rich and could be charged a fee for the free book plug.)

There will be many other ideas as to how the license could be REDUCED or the money RAISED by other means.

Do you have any ideas. ? Or are we going to sit back and watch the license fee go to £300 a year? (Its food for thought.

Victoria Derbyshire and Gabby Logan may well have ideas on this . Ask them if you feel like doing so.

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claig · 03/06/2011 16:08

Yeah, apparently Jesus in a nappy and describing Mary as being raped by an angel and raped by God, is also just their brand of humour. It's outstanding to them. They're progressive; they used to have that Frankie Boyle on.

claig · 03/06/2011 16:11

No I don't work for that illustrious paper of good sense and discernment, the Daily Mail.

'Oh it must mean that the majority think it's worth £145 a year.'
Why don't they give the public a referendum on it? Then we'll see if they want to be taxed.

Chen23 · 03/06/2011 16:11

Just to be clear Claig you're in favour of a television station not showing a program because the Church of England expressed concern?

btw it wasn't just the BBC who declared that show to be of artistic merit, it received excellent reviews and multiple major awards all over the world.

headfairy · 03/06/2011 16:12

Lunabelly.. do you kiss your kids with that potty mouth?

I'm not sure what programme you're talking about... if it was pre watershed and you felt it wasn't suitable did you take it further? Did you contact Ofcom? I'm sure if you had and they had felt it wasn't suitable further action would have been taken.

God I do feel like I'm spouting the party line, honestly I'm not some mouthpiece but sometimes I think people think one or two unfortunate incidents are sufficient to get rid of what is generally recognised as one of the greatest broadcasting institutions in the world. Perhaps we should scrap the NHS because the ambulance service refused to send a crew out to someone who's father had hurt himself badly and was obviously in shock? (I'm referring to the thread about the posters father who dislocated his shoulder and the ambulance service wouldn't attend if you're wondering)

headfairy · 03/06/2011 16:14

Claig, you are kidding aren't you? Who would pay for a referendum? We've only had two in the post war era and they were about seriously important things like voting reform, not whether a few aggrieved people who resent paying £145 a year should get out of paying it.

Seriously, get a job with the Daily Mail. You'd love it there :o

Gster · 03/06/2011 16:16

This thread is actually getting very entertaining. Grin

Katisha · 03/06/2011 16:16

You'll miss it when it's gone....

ScousyFogarty · 03/06/2011 16:18

Headfairy does yourcontentment spring from a fat pay cheque? Or having a BBC friend who needs your support. (Do your own thinking please) Group thinking butters no logical parsnips. Unfair females depress be because they are the kind gender. Men are born to stick their chest and willies out. (But not in public)

I am sorry to have to say the Greedy Society stretches to the.

Dont normally wear a frock But I could do Gabby Logan in a full lenght Pemark

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claig · 03/06/2011 16:18

Let's not try and equate teh BBC with our national institution of the NHS, full of hard working nurses and doctors, saving all our lives. There is no comparison and yet the salaries of many of their presenters dwarf the salaries of thousands of hard working NHS staff.

'Just to be clear Claig you're in favour of a television station not showing a program because the Church of England expressed concern?'

I'm in favour of a public body being mindful not to create offence to thousands of citizens who actually pay for the service. They may think that describing Mary as being raped by an angel and raped by God has 'outstanding artistic significance', but the peasants who pay for the mandarins, don't think that.

ScousyFogarty · 03/06/2011 16:18

Or do I mean do Gabby Logan in a Primark

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Katisha · 03/06/2011 16:20

Do you people honestly think that the average programme maker gets a fat cheque?
Stop being blinded by the few top earners you see on your screens.

Gster · 03/06/2011 16:20

Group thinking butters no logical parsnips

Grin

rofl

Scouse, tell me you're not for real.

Gster · 03/06/2011 16:23

claig, I actually find a lot of religious programs quite offensive but you know live and let live.

I agree with headfairy , the BBC is a nation institution to be treasured. It's worth the fee.

claig · 03/06/2011 16:23

'Who would pay for a referendum? We've only had two in the post war era and they were about seriously important things like voting reform, not whether a few aggrieved people who resent paying £145 a year should get out of paying it.'

Paying for a referendum and scrapping the forced tax would be a lot cheaper than teh public having to continue paying it, like serfs, ad infinitum. There'll be no referendum, because they know what the answer will be.

In 1994 there were 800 or so people jailed for not paying the tax. The current prison population is about 70,000. I don't know what the figures were in 1994 and how many were jailed last year. That's over 1 in 100 people in jail for not paying the BBC. That's quite a large number of people, banged up with robbers, muggers and criminals. It's not ' a few aggrieved people who resent paying £145 a year'.

headfairy · 03/06/2011 16:23

scousy, I am doing my own thinking thank you... I do not have a fat BBC paycheck (I don't have a paycheck at all, I'm not American. I receive a salary - sorry couldn't resist) BBC salaries in my area have risen by 1% a year for the past three years (inflation is running at 4% remember). The equivalent pay for someone doing the same job at Sky is about 20% higher. BBC staff are usually paid below the industry standard, apparently it's a perk to work for the BBC.

headfairy · 03/06/2011 16:27

claig, do you think the only people who work at the BBC are over paid presenters (nice use of an overused cliche by the way)

For every Jonathon Ross (who's left by the way) there are about 200 people earning a trillionth he earned.

ScousyFogarty · 03/06/2011 16:27

Headfairy the argument thus far was basesed on star salararies. My wife thinks rather differently to you. She uses words like fairness and conscience. They do exist

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Chen23 · 03/06/2011 16:28

"I'm in favour of a public body being mindful not to create offence to thousands of citizens who actually pay for the service. They may think that describing Mary as being raped by an angel and raped by God has 'outstanding artistic significance', but the peasants who pay for the mandarins, don't think that."

2.5 million people watched the show, a few thousand complained (virtually none of whom, if any had actually seen it) and took offence therefore it should have been banned Confused Have you seen it btw?

I'm sure you could rustle up thousands of people to complain about gay characters on East Enders, does that mean they shouldn't be allowed on TV?

Katisha · 03/06/2011 16:29

oh dear - some slebs earn more than I think is right. Let's get rid of the whole organisation. That'll show 'em.
Never mind the other 20,000 BBC workers who earn far far far less.

Katisha · 03/06/2011 16:30

baby - bathwater

claig · 03/06/2011 16:30

Of course, i don't think they are all overpaid. Their technicians amd other staff often go on strike due to their conditions. But let's not skirt over the excesses that occur in the pay of their top presenters, out of the public purse, and if some of those public don't contribute to their wages, then they are thrown in jail.

claig · 03/06/2011 16:34

The cleaners are probably on minimum wage, unlike some of those mandarins on maximum wage.

TimeWasting · 03/06/2011 16:35

Television is not compulsory. It's not necessary. It is very possible to live without it.

headfairy · 03/06/2011 16:35

Oh God, a couple of headline grabbing salaries do not equate to the whole BBC pay structure

scousy - you've lost me I'm afraid :o (long shift, very little sleep)

Gster · 03/06/2011 16:36

Agreed. I don't have a TV and manage quite well without one.

You can please all the people all the time.

There is an off switch.