to fuming that there has been no staff at the local secondary school since 3.30pm to take a serious complaint about bullying and harrasment

[tomhardyismydh]

I walked past the house of a family who I do know but not terribly well and I am aware there middle daughter is being bullied.

outside was a group of girls looking in through their window shouting and jeering and swearing. I know the mum works some afternoons so I did intervien and tell the group of girls to leave them alone and move away from the house...in hindsight a bit silly of me as I did have my 5 yr old dd with me, but I wasn't in any way afraid forour safety or anything. Turns out the mum was home and she also then came out. They took the message and went away, but then followed me up the street shouting and swearing and berating me. It was laughable really but attempted to call non emergency police no just to show the little shits they can get away with behaving like this, but my bloody mobile died on me.

Anyway I have been trying to call the school since 3.30 and no one has been available to take my call, and have just now been told all senior management staff left at 4.15 and receptionist cant locate any other teaching staff. no one will be in over half term. now I m shocked that the head did not pick up his answer messages before leaving the school for a whole week, I had left one message at 3.30 and one at 4pm. I find it hard to even believe the head of a secondary school would even finish at 4.15.

Im tempted to call the non emergancy no again to give the message to the school this not acceptable, but Im sure this is very little the police would even be able to do.

also I want to say bunch of little bitches how horrible for a group of girls to behave like this!!!!!

Morning ladies. Am hungover slightly but will solve that....am off soon for a boozy lunch!

Loving your style K999

poor you Pinot, luckily dd has decided football is not for her. hope the fresh air sorts out the head.

read the thread ace we seem to have moved on from there.

Just in answer to your question I am a student social worker.

Thanks - I did read it all...sorry I hadn't realised that I couldn't go back and comment on what had been said after I stopped MNing last night. I'll remember that in the future.

tomHardy
ALL major organisations try to be a law unto themselves. You are right to complain. School empty at 4;15 ? what about all this OVERTIME they bore on about?

The school may not have been empty, there was just no one to take the call in the office.
I don't call it overtime, because that implies being paid for it.

I have always been amazed that more people aren't teachers BTW, what with all the benefits. I've taught in schools that have really struggled to get staff of adequate quality and have re-advertised posts.
Why would people not want to teach?

They may have had no intention of taking the call, GoblinChild.

Heard the phrase "Hes in a meeting"

Meetings in school usually take place after the school day has ended. Mine certainly do, otherwise I'd have to conduct them surrounded by 32 earwigging Y6 gossips.

One effective way of dealing with "bullying" is to ignore it. There is no fun in it for bullies if they don't get a reaction. I suggest that that was the tactic which the girl and her mother were employing.

I think some posters here won't be satisfied until one of the school offices is done out as a bedroom, teachers have to sleep all night in shifts and the phone gets answered 24/7. Of course then there needs to be a back up posse of teachers who can leave their homes at a moment's notice and deal with complaints, even during the holidays.

Then of course there might have been an AIBU post as follows:

"My DH is a HT. It is the last day of term. I've been looking after the 3 DCs all day and I asked him to make sure he was home for 4pm so that we could have some family time. It's now 5pm and he has phoned to say he's dealing with a community complaint. I'm furious. AIBU?"

Cue answers: "YANBU. He should be home at the end of the working day. No decent husband would be at work when he should be at home with you and the DCs..."

Will we be paid overtime? Or double overtime?
Can I lie about and read, eat chocolate and listen to music whilst I'm waiting for the telephone?
It sounds very peaceful compared to managing teaching, or being married, or running a house and garden, or having a child with additional needs or elderly parents. All of which I do...can I book a fortnight in the summer please?

Don't be silly, Goblinchild. It should be part of your job, of course! You're well paid already and should be glad to do this without additional payment as you only work a few hours a day and get all those holidays.

I could still be drawn in...it sounds peaceful and I could do my marking and planning without interference whilst brandishing an excellent excuse.
Can I have a special Thunderbirds' hat too?

Can it be a child-free zone

(dreams)

Well, it would be wouldn't it? Because all the children will have gone home to their loving mamas and papas. Except those cruising the streets.

as an aside, and I do wonder how slating parents would deal with this, I am frequently terrified of some of the "children" I come into contact with

I am terrified for them, but over-ridingly of some of them

and with cause

activate

If in your area the majority of decent caring parents were allowed to take 'control' of the children the awful bullying of their classmates and the excessive cheek and back answering of adults especially the old would go back to being a rare and shameful thing.

As it is round here.

I'm sorry beesimo, I don't understand your last point - parents aren't allowed to control their children?
What sort of 'control' are you talking about?

If you read it right I said the children not their children. Here if you see a child misbehaving it is perfectly exceptable to intervene give them a good telling off and make them say sorry. As in if they are swearing in the street.

'just watch your gammy mouths lads'

'sorry there Missus'

Where is this part of the country where swearing teenagers take any notice of an adult who tells them off in the street?

It is school matter: students are expected to follow the school's behaviour policy outside school, too, especially with another student of the school and especially when wearing school uniform.

Northernlurker it does not matter whether schools close early from a business point of view or not because a school is not a business. In some countries schools close at l.30. Also many businesses have a shorter day on Friday. Also schools often close early the last day before the holiday because the site needs to be closed down for the holiday and it takes time, sometimes site management needs to start it 3-ish to be able to go home at 6. And finally: heads are not actually obliged to take random phone calls from anyone. You can make an appointment with him when his diary allows it and talk to him then.

ilovesooty

I'm not going to say where I live but it is a rural area, I think the reason that these threads boggle me brain is that what is described in them is totally alien to me. I think the fact is that in the last 20-30 years behaviour has changed very radically in the towns and especially down South. What is passed as everday happenings and therefore normal is not 'normal' it is wrong

Yes down here lasses have their fall outs too but a pack off them following a woman and small child down the road would result in total shaming of their parents, the culprits would be punished serverely and the long pointing would go on for years.

I have to go now as we are going to a Wedding Dance and DH has put the wrong tie on we are meant to be cordinating our colours. Brides a Bridzilla.

My DDs have just entered the room they look a fetching shade of KP orangery

Night Night