AIBU?
TO think Sharon Shoesmith should have walked out of court by a side exit
Silver1 · 27/05/2011 13:02
Sharon Shoesmith was the Director of Children's Services in Harringey at the time of Peter Connelly's death he was known to most of us as Baby P.
AIBU to feel really upset -although the judge upheld the report by OFstead that her department was inadequate and that her own own review of the case was deficient.
I know that actually she didn't kill that little boy.
I know that Ed Balls could have and should have followed proper procedures if he decided that she wasn't fit for purpose
But did she really have to walk out of court with a beaming smile and say she was "over the moon"
The Badman report (independent) concluded that ''In this case the practice of the majority, both individually and collectively expressed as the culture of safeguarding and child protection at the time, was incompetent and their approach was completely inadequate to meet the challenge presented by the case of child A (Peter).''
A little boy died-because her department which was supposed to protect him missed their chances to save him because of the practices that she was over seeing. She should have had the grace to leave the court by one of the many side exits.
It is all over the news
Birdsgottafly · 27/05/2011 13:06
While her department was responsible for alot of what went wrong the findings are that non of the services involved; health care, eduaction and police acted accordingly.
What made this case so terrible is that it shouldn't have happened again (Victoria Climbie 2007) Lord Lammings findings were that his recommendations wasn't followed, the laws were there but not used.
Serenitysutton · 27/05/2011 13:10
I think she had the right to take them to court for acting unlawfully and she has now successfully defended her rights. It was hugely stressful and I don't blame her for having a smile. The baby P case might be emotive but that does not mean LB harringay can act unlawfully.
Silver1 · 27/05/2011 13:10
Ultimately her department would have acted on the findings of the police who wanted him removed and the GP who reported NAIs. So yeah she might be held to task.
No it wasn't just one department that doesn't mean they couldn't have and shouldn't have acted when they had the chance. They were visiting the family (66 times in total) no one else had that exposure to the Connellys
smallwhitecat · 27/05/2011 13:10
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giveitago · 27/05/2011 13:12
Sort of with poster. Her appeal for unfair dismissal was upheld because she was sacked unfairly because the appropriate processes were not followed.
Did the social workers involved get the same treatment and will it open doors for them to get a lovely payout?
takethisonehereforastart · 27/05/2011 13:13
I haven't seen the news but if that is correct (the big smile and the over the moon comment) she has shown herself to be very out of touch with the way people feel over the Baby P case and very insensitive. So still proof to me that she was the wrong person for the job.
Silver1 · 27/05/2011 13:16
I don't think the SWs should be pulled apart-and I don't think any CP SW wants a child to die, I do think though that ultimately when they go for a removal it is not their decision alone, properly it is the decision of a team of people Sharon Shoesmith was involved in implementing a strategy for that team to follow.
minieggfannomore · 27/05/2011 13:17
Sharon Shoesmith did not kill and harm Baby P. His mother and boyfriend did. Sharon Shoesmith was actually unfairly dismissed in a political and media storm.
I do not know her so cannot say how likeable or otherwise she is, but it has been judged that she was treated unfairly.
Direct your anger to those who were really responsible for this poor child's death.
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/05/2011 13:17
Why should she? If you know anything about the workings of a SSD, you'll know that they have incredibly stringent guidelines to work to with essential services being cut and staff difficult to recruit/keep. The BabyP incident isn't the first and won't be the last -not by a long shot.
I think it's high time the government thought long and hard about how the system is supposed to work and then took the it apart, piece by piece, reassembling it with proper instructions and lines of responsibility. The current system does not work and the fact that there aren't more cases is purely down to luck and circumstance.
I also think that once a child has entered the system because of abuse, the parental rights should be severed and they should be made to pay for the upkeep of that child still. That might set an example and reduce the pressure on the 'looked after' system, at least funding extra resources for it.
It's terribly unfair and cowardly, this scape-goating. 
Birdsgottafly · 27/05/2011 13:18
The SW's that took part in the CP conferences were not experienced CP SW's and should not have been given the responsibility. Likewise if the doctor had of been experienced she wouldn't have sent Peter home without an ex-ray. The police would not have left the SW's to get in touch; the list is endlass and makes depressing reading.
HuwEdwards · 27/05/2011 13:20
The problem is, and I know of no-one in real life who disagrees, that she comes across in a very poor light. She looks and sounds smug and self-satisfying and totally without compassion or integrity.
I'm sure this mustn't be the case, but I really feel that's why there's such an overwhelming public dislike for her.
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