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AIBU?

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To think this school is unfair

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ledkr · 26/05/2011 09:04

I have just dropped my dd off at primary school and they share a back gate with the local secondary school. There is a teacher on duty everyday who barkds at the boys to do up their top button,straighten their ties or tuck in their shirts. At the same time they dont bat an eyelid at the girls walking in wearing very short skirts,dyed hair and thick make up which i know are all against the school rules/uniform policy. I think its a shame,no wonder boys under acheive if this is how they are treated,is this the same at all schools? Good job ive got a dd by the looks of it.Poor lads.

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ledkr · 26/05/2011 09:05

oh yeah and girls also had untucked shirts and imaginatively tied ties.

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GypsyMoth · 26/05/2011 09:05

yep,same at ds middle school......new HT and he's strict. and actually quite nasty.

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ledkr · 26/05/2011 09:40

I thinks its a bloody cheek imagine that happening i the work place,possibly some ht are of the old boys club,i aggree with good uniform but for both sexes surely

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ShinyMoonInAPurpleSky · 26/05/2011 09:48

I agree that both sexes should be made to wear the uniform correctly BUT when I was in school, it was the boys who didn't wear their uniforms correctly that caused the most trouble. Even if the girls did it too they were never as troublesome as the boys so maybe that is the angle they're going for?

edam · 26/05/2011 09:52

Teachers have always had a thing about top buttons and shirts worn outside trousers. No idea why this school isn't bothered about short skirts and make up (although not sure what you expect them to do about dyed hair?).

I was quite old before I realised why my headteacher used to bark at boys to take their hands out of their pockets.

Renniehorta · 26/05/2011 09:58

You are likely to get a lot more lip out of teenage girls over anything to do with their appearance. Boys just tend to comply and then untuck their shirt etc when out of sight.

From my experience this could be the reason. In reality a school which has lost it over their uniform, as this school seems to have done, has got a mountain to climb. It needs absolute consistency from every teacher, in every location, at every time over a long period of time.

MumblingRagDoll · 26/05/2011 10:12

Well a scruffy boy looks far worse than an overmade up girl.

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ledkr · 26/05/2011 10:36

Edam- maybe they could send them home to "dye it back or cut it out but not too short" as they make the boys do It wont affect me but i think the way we treat teenage boys is a lot to do with their attitude towards us,i always find the girls a bit less ,likely to smile or let my by with my pram than the boys who seem quite pleasant.
Oo mumbling i think id rather see the scruffy boy

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squeakytoy · 26/05/2011 10:40

Our head teacher used to stand handing out tissues for make-up removal in a morning...

to the girls AND the boys...

Well it was the early 80's

Saggyoldclothcatpuss · 26/05/2011 10:43

I disagree, I'd rather see a scruffy boy too! There is nothing worse than an over made up, underdressed, slovenly looking girl.
I'd be asking about this, it's not fair, and FWIW, if you do it in writing, the school is obliged to reply.

Vallhala · 26/05/2011 10:46

Bpys underachieve because of the expectations upon them to be presentable?

Remind me to tell that to the successful businessmen, the lawyers and doctors amongst my male friends, many of whom went to strict grammar and/or independent schools just as I did.

In my school and the others we mixed with we all had to be extremely well presented. We weren't merely "bsrked at" if we didn't conform either!

Unfair it may be - in my day it was unfair that the boys from a nearby school wore trousers whilst we had to wear a (solely school uniform shop purchased) A-line navy skirt which was below the knee. I don't recall failing or becoming traumatised by a very strict uniform requirement.

MumblingRagDoll · 26/05/2011 10:53

I keep seeing girls of 10 or 11 on their way to primary school in tiny, tiny skirts...so short that you can see their undies. I keep wondering why! hy dont their parents put something decent on them? Some of them re developed already and it just looks wrong. they can't possibly be able to play comfortably at playtime...I see what people mean....that a scruffy boy is probably better than a 15 year old girl with a tonne of makeup on...

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ledkr · 26/05/2011 12:06

val you are missing my point,i think its the unfairness of the treatment of boys that may make them kick back and thus under achieve and its a sad fact they are under achieving. I was an 80's school girl too and we had to ALL stick to a uniform policy not just one gender,i couldnt care less what they wear as long as it applies to everyone.
I dont think they are traumatised but i work with young people and boys in general feel unfairly treated by society,police,teachers and public.

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