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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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Original poster

to be fed up of other peoples children invading the space of me and my dog !

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Avantia · 25/05/2011 20:42

Yes all know about dogs jumping and causing nusinace to people but after reading the other AIBU thread about dogs would like to point out my experince over lasts couple of days with others peoples children.

Outside school gate , dog lying quietly on floor (getting bored waiting !) young child (reception yr)walks past goes and finds some stick or debris off floor comes back and chucks it at my behaved and nearly asleep dog. Told child not to throw sticks at my dog , mother gives me a look that would kill . luckily dog didn't move .

Sitting outside a cafe in park , telling dog to sit ,priasing dog then just see a young child that has run up right behind dog running up right behind dog and screams at it to sit. Then said child runs off - I assume to his mother but couldn't see her.

this is not a mick take of the other thread but showing that not all the time dogs are to blame for lack of harmony between humans and dogs.

So AIBU to expect children not to come up to my dog and interfere with us when going about our own business and invading our space?

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hephaestus · 25/05/2011 21:35

"my daughter saw a great dane when she was about two. She swore blind it wad a donkey, until it woofed"

I go about with variously a pack of 'wolves' or a living incarnation of Disney's Snow Dogs - I love to hear the astonished gasps and "MUMMYMUMMY HUS-KEEEEEES!" - and they are tremendously pleased to meet the kids, too, but please, please ask first!

PiaThreeTimes · 25/05/2011 21:35

amothersplaceisinthewrong, are you completely mad??!! "YABVU to have a dog anywhere near a school." One of the most stupid things I've ever read on MN!

fifi25 · 25/05/2011 21:36

Can everyone not just live in harmony, its tit for tat, dog done this, child done that. This is what happens, dogs are dogs and kids are kids

If you take a child to a common more tha likely you will be approached by a dog

Iy you take a dog to a school, knocking bet you will be approached by a school kid

amberleaf · 25/05/2011 21:37

YABU

I dont know why parents bring dogs to school with them.

Most schools dont allow dogs on the premises anyway so they all stand by the gate, do these parents not want to go in and collect their children? do they never want to see their childs teacher?

not to mention the fact that all these dogs parked at the gate with owners [and some not] scare quite a few people mainly children who are afraid of dogs.

Not everyone likes dogs, some are very frightened of them, # i wish dog owners would be more understanding of that.

I know lots are understanding but too many are not.

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Avantia · 25/05/2011 21:39

fifi - yes you can be approached by a school kid but you dont really want said school kid throwing something at your dog.

I take my dog to school and wait outside - my children are old enough to come outside and see me - I really dont need to see their teacher everyday.

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fifi25 · 25/05/2011 21:44

Theres nearly always going to be one naughty kid at the school though out of about 90 as is there going to be probably a dog people dont like down the local common. Theres not really much you can do about it.

ohokthen · 25/05/2011 21:47

Oh bullshit, Not take a dog anywhere near a school.

Seriously are you for real. What totally pc bullshit !!!!

There nowt wrong in taking your dog to school.

Ive took mine since he was 8 weeks old. 1st in my arms so all the kids could pet the cute andrex puppy. Then a couple of weeks later, to stroke the cute puppy on a lead, who is now walking.

Oh and every week after that, "wow hasnt he grown" says the kids.

Oh and did he go into class cause teacher wanted to see. Hmmm yep.

He is 6 years old now. We wait outside the school gates, the kids who know him come up and shout his name.

The kids who dont know him mostly, ask 1st to pet. Oh and eyes in the back of head. He sits right in front of me, near a wall. So no kid can come from behind.

And sorry but if a kid tries to pet, without asking. I tell them NO. They should always ask 1st. Cause not all dogs are nice, just like not all parents are nice.

Its good for the dog and kids.

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Avantia · 25/05/2011 21:47

fifi25 - try saying that to someone who has had that 'naughty' dog jump up at them at the common - dont think they will agree with you I'm afraid.

Dogs are naughty and must be trained - children ..well ..who knows

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Avantia · 25/05/2011 21:50

I personally dont think dogs are naughty - but people keep banging on about dogs must be trained by owners .

Owners train them but then have to deal with children and parents who seem to have no common sense !

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amberleaf · 25/05/2011 21:50

In a human society dogs are a choice.

Not everyone makes that choice yet it is inflicted on us all the same.

Its like passive smoking but with dogs instead.

PiaThreeTimes · 25/05/2011 21:52

Like many things in life, amberleaf. Therefore children and their parents should learn how to react to them and treat them properly.

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Avantia · 25/05/2011 21:53

you could say the same about children - not everyone makes choice to have children but they still have to put up with them in society .

Comparing dogs to passive smoking - well that's a new one on me !

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Scaredycat3000 · 25/05/2011 21:56

blackeyedsusan · 25/05/2011 21:56

Avantia, children should be taught not to approach dogs without asking a parent/ carer and owner of the dog.

fifi25 · 25/05/2011 21:59

Avantia I am not saying its ok i am saying more than likely it will happen either way so you just have to deal with it.

How many times has the kid poked your dog? The child may have had behaviour issues and even if he was told not to poke the dog he would anyway.

People will always encounter untrained dogs as will people encounter badly behaved kids,

babybythesea · 25/05/2011 22:00

I prefer to compare dogs to cars. Not everyone chooses to have a car. But we all have to live alongside them (have them inflicted on us), and know how to behave around them. It would not be good enough for me to say 'We don't have a car so my dd doesn't know how to behave'. She must learn, for her own safety.

(I should point out in the interests of transparency that I do in fact own a car!)

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Avantia · 25/05/2011 22:04

Peoplee will not 'just deal' with a dog that has jumped up at them - people get annoyed about it and blame (rightly) the dog and owner.

But a dog and owner minding it own business , seems according to some , to be in the wrong aswell .

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fifi25 · 25/05/2011 22:08

If a dog jumped on me it wouldnt bother me, i have 2 but i can understand why people would be annoyed. I can also see how you would be annoyed as a child poked your dog, what else can i say

LittleMissFlustered · 25/05/2011 23:19

hephaestus, she muttered for about ten minutes that it was a donkey, and wondered if she would be allowed 'a go'. Even when it was proven to be a dog she thought it was reasonable to have a ride. Small children... Mentalists!

MadamDeathstare · 25/05/2011 23:23

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IvyAndGold · 26/05/2011 06:15

i am :o at dogd being compared to passive smoking, only on MN!

IvyAndGold · 26/05/2011 06:16

dogs, even!

emptyshell · 26/05/2011 07:18

I had some moron scream at me once that I should retime my dog's walk to not be on the pavements during school run time. Like yeah - fuck off - public place, I pay my taxes and have as much right to be on the streets, with a dog walking perfectly to heel, and the park's that way, short of climbing through people's back gardens.

Keep the kids away from hassling my dog, I keep my dog away from hassling kids (amazing what the treat bag rustled can do). Already walk the poor guy somewhere differently out of school term time (away from his favouritist place in the whole wide world where he can stare up trees at squirrels) because of the behaviour of some.

I don't ever let kids come up to my dog unless they ask - if the idiot parents are going to let them come up and run amok - someone's got to step in and speak out - so I bloody well do (nicely). My dog's fine, but sooner or later they're going to run up and clumsily pat/wallop a dog that's much less tolerant.

Lovecat · 26/05/2011 07:30

Thread about a thread?

Not nice.

MittzyTheMinx · 26/05/2011 07:37

'If you take a child to a common more tha likely you will be approached by a dog

Iy you take a dog to a school, knocking bet you will be approached by a school kid '

I pretty well agree with this.

My DD goes to school where about 8 dogs are brought on the school run, it's great. The dogs snuffle about, a couple are tied up while the kids are fetched and the children interact with them.

I do think if you are going to let a dog off the lead it should be possible to control it so if it approaches strangers it will come back as not everyone likes dogs however friendly they are,
Apart from the school run I never let my DC's approach dogs without the owners permission and letting the dog get used to them first with sniffing and a few minutes.

Some Parents can be just as irresponsible as some dog owners and it is not fair on either.

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