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AIBU?

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to think that because we're hosting an event we pay for it (even though we can't afford it)?

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branstonsandcheese · 20/05/2011 21:02

DCs are getting christened on Sunday. They're having 4 godparents between the 3 of them (some are doubling-up). The christening was organised last-minute as DH's grandma, who is very frail, said she wanted to see the DCs christened (we were always going to do it but it has become urgent due to her health). The vicar made a big effort to get us this slot and the godparents were all free so we decided to go ahead. The godparents are doing us a favour - rearranging their weekends and stuff - to be gps. Wanted to show our thanks.

Booked a nice local restaurant for lunch for the 10 of us (including the 3 DCs so 7 adults eating/drinking - more like 6 as DH's gm doesn't really eat anymore Sad).

We have a very strained relationship with both sets of parents, neither of whom are religious at all (MIL was very uncomfortable with us having a church wedding and she and FIL are hardline atheists). But DH's grandmother told the ILs and they said they wanted to come, as does BIL. BIL (who has learning disabilities), was hurt he hadn't been asked to be a godfather so we added him. So now that's 13 of us.

Knew at that point my parents would be very VERY hurt if we didn't at least invite them, so we let them know it was happening and very low-key, etc. Of course they would come, and they made a big fuss about how much they'd rearranged to do so (my mum feels competitive towards MIL). So now there's 15. That was last week.

Just now, my sister texted my DH to tell him that she and BIL have booked flights to come as well! We'd already let them know about it and they'd said they couldn't come because they had a friend's wedding in a city miles and miles away but they're leaving v early Sunday to be with us.

So now there's 17.

The ILs and my parents and sis/BIL are all heavy drinkers. Nobody will be falling down drunk but FIL will have five or six beers (as will BIL), my mum and MIL will have a bottle and a half each at least, my sis and BIL are also chuggers.

On FIL's last birthday, big meal in a major city, MIL was ordering LPR left right and centre. She couldn't pay the bill and DH had to help out.

If we'd known there would be so many of us we'd've booked somewhere else (cheaper), but we've rung round and there's nowhere who can fit us in at this stage - original venue has a lovely outside area they've reserved etc. Also DH's grandma REALLY looking forward to going to this particular place and has said so multiple times.

They can increase the number from 10 to 17 but only if we all order by 12.30 etc etc. Stress stress stress.

I rang and asked for wine to be ready for our arrival (the cheapest ones), to stop someone ordering champagne or something but the cheapest wines are £16/17 a bottle. The original 6 of us are all small eaters but if people order starters and main courses it could be £30 a person for food alone, maybe £50 including drinks.

DH and I really can't afford that. The meal for 10 of us would've been a stretch (we've also ordered a cake), but we weren't worried - nobody we invited is a big drinker, nobody would've taken the piss by ordering the £21 rib roast (what I bet my BIL and FIL and dad will do at least).

Now, I was always raised to believe that if you host an event like that, you pay. Would not DREAM of asking the godparents to stump up. DH wants to 'let people know' (his and my families), that we'd like donations but I can just see that turning nasty and making people feel uncomfortable.

I'm voting for grin and bear it but it's made us massively stressed. Nobody in our familes really 'understands' (cf LPR and last-minute flights across the country); my parents, sis and BIL v affluent and the ILs are extravagant.

Don't want to marr the day for grandmother-in-law but it's all a massive stress now. But I do think that we should pay (or at least be 100% prepared to), since it's our event.

AIBU?

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GypsyMoth · 20/05/2011 21:04

i'd do a buffet in the church hall instead!!

manicbmc · 20/05/2011 21:06

It seems like some have invited themselves though and so should be paying for themselves.

FabbyChic · 20/05/2011 21:07

I dont think you should pay for peoples drinks, you should tell people that the meal will be paid for but not the drinks and they have to get their own.

Waswondering · 20/05/2011 21:08

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geordieminx · 20/05/2011 21:08

God it's tricky.

You would hope that everyone would follow your lead and just order a main course,

Also could you prep waiter and say that no drinks are to be added to the tap, that they must be bought at the bar... That should hopefully reduce your costs a bit?

Bumfuzzle · 20/05/2011 21:10

what about, if there's any way, paying for the food but making sure everyone knows that it is not a free bar? That is not unusual. And no tab - pay for each drink as they order it, so they can't just leave it for you in the end.

Or you order for everyone beforehand, maybe a selection of dishes for people to dip into? or a set meal the same for everyone?

vigglewiggle · 20/05/2011 21:11

Could you ask the venue to provide a glass of (cheap) bucks fizz on arrival and get jugs of water on the table and then explain to everyone that any other drinks can be paid for at the bar.

It's a christening rather than a wedding so there shouldn't be an expectation of copius amounts of booze. And I say this as someone who likes a glass of wine (or 12) Grin.

IloveJudgeJudy · 20/05/2011 21:11

I would do it in a hall or at home. Maybe you could buy good quality ready-made (maybe M&S?) food and had it at home it wouldn't be too much work. I know that my SIL does this sometimes when she has all my DH's side of the family over (17 people). That would be much cheaper.

Is there no pub you could go to instead? Or maybe a chain restaurant? I do feel for you as we would be in the same position. We would have the celebration at home.

manicbmc · 20/05/2011 21:12

I think Fabby's idea is good. Say you're paying for the main meal (not pudds and starters) and no drinks.

Icelollycraving · 20/05/2011 21:14

I do think if you have a celebration you foot the bill. In this case I would say we have ordered a couple of bottles to celebrate but anything after that is down to people who order but we will pay the food. Any chance you could do a set menu of your choice & say it's because they didn't think they could alter yr booking at such short notice.
Hope it goes well!

lesley33 · 20/05/2011 21:15

I agree its fine to pay for people's meals and just say as we are on a budget I hope you don't mind paying for your own drinks. Or if you are uncomfortable with that provide a small amount of alcohol e.g. enough for everyone to have a small glass of wine and ask them to pay for any additional drinks.

I have been in situation where someone insists on paying for all food and drink when I knew they couldn't really afford it. I ended up not ordering drinkbecause of this when I would have been quite happy to pay for it myself.

But in your scenario I would be tempted to do a nice buffet at home. Some cheap sandwiches padded out with nice M & S food and some salads. You could have the buffet in the kitchen but have your living room for people to sit down in. And lots of wine, cheap cava, etc.

DoMeDon · 20/05/2011 21:16

I would ask restaurant for short menu (as was said) and 6 bottles of wine. I would explain to PIL's that all other drinks will be off tab. I would also explain nicely it is a stretch financially which is why short menu and restricted drinks. If they want to then pay their own - let them.

branstonsandcheese · 20/05/2011 21:16

Really can't arrange a buffet with one day to go, and Dh would hate to upset his gran - in any case that church's hall has been hired out by the parents of the PFB getting christened at the same time (who are already narked with us for muscling in! Is the bishop's grandchild).

They were all invited really - just not very wholeheartedly. Can't NOT invite grandparents to the DCs christening can we? Anyway too late now Sad

waswondering The restaurant offered us a fixed menu originally at 2 courses for £22 a head but we said no as at that point (only a few days ago), as nobody would want 2 courses and the choices weren't the nice things on the menu (plus expensive). I'm hoping as geordieminx says people will see us VERY LOUDLY ordering one (not expensive), course and follow suit.

What will happen is people will order wine for the table - I'm hoping that by having asked that they have the cheapest bottles 'on the go' we'll restrict things that way - and share amongst themselves. BILx2 and FIL will have beers - 15 beers at £4 each, do I even want to do that maths? Jesus. As we're sitting down to eat it will be table service. Especially as we're outside - the bar is miles away on the lower level of a completely different part.

I think I'm going to have to pack a hip flask and try to chill myself out ahead of time. Couldn't stand awkward silence when bill arrives - FIL's birthday was excruciating - especially as we wanted to treat grandma-in-law and the godparents.

Need to focus on making it a nice day for gm-i-l, the DCs (who are all old enough to notice tension), and the godparents. Will just have to waft around I suppose.

Most cross with sis and BIL really as they are making such a huge fuss about flying over at 5am!

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branstonsandcheese · 20/05/2011 21:21

No chance at all could do it at home. Have rung round the local pubs-who-do-food but none can accommodate 17 at sunday roast time with one day's notice. We're also in a bit of a 'trendy' area so most local places are pricey anyway.

Doing it at home not an option, we're in a smallish flat up 3 flights of stairs, grandma-in-law can't get up here at all. If we'd known there would be so many ahead of time we'd've tried to sort something else though.

I'd be so gutted if parents or ILs made a big deal about buying their own drinks - from history I think they might - and made our dear friends who are being godparents feel awkward. Don't want THEM to feel they have to contribute.

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amistillsexy · 20/05/2011 21:22

I would definately contact the venue and discuss it with them so they know the situation before you arrive- you don't want to be having this conversation with them on Sunday.

I would go with waswondering's advice and ask for a set menu and vigglewiggle's idea of (cheap) buck's fizz on arrival and all other drinks from the bar.

The venue don't mind who pays for it, so don't be embarrassed about telling them exactly what you can afford, and let them suggest how they can make it affordable for you, then let the guests spend as much as they like in the bar, etc!

bubblecoral · 20/05/2011 21:23

I think you should be prepared to pay, it's not like the people concerned are just aquaintances that would have a reason to think that they wouldn't be welcome at your dc's Christening. They are your family and as such, they should be there for an event like a Christening, so I don't really think you can use 'they invited themselves' as an excuse.

If you really don't want to change the venue, which is what I would do, or the venue won't do a buffet, I think you should do what vigglewiggle said. Provide one glass of something bubbly, request jugs of water on the table, then allow people to work out that if they want drinks they will have to pay at the bar. It shouldn't be that hard if the waiting staff know that drinks are not to be added to the bill. Then you should allow people to order what they want, because you chose to have your event at this type of restaurant.

Soups · 20/05/2011 21:24

Tricky situation.

When I've been to family gatherings like that everyone has contributed their share of the food. Of course if it's granny, or someones birthday, then they're paid for. I wouldn't be at all offended if asked to pay or donate, I certainly wouldn't assume unlimited drinks were included!

If you feel the way to go is to pay for everyone, I'd call the restaurant about a set menu, and maybe pay for a few bottles of wine to be put on the table. I've been to wedding receptions in restaurants and this is what has been done. I don't think any of the guests would have expected to have ordered freely from the main menu.

Good luck

branstonsandcheese · 20/05/2011 21:24

Checked the venue's menu online - a 'mimosa' (that's buck's fizz, right?), is £4 a glass!

We can pay - on a credit card - but staring down the barrel of maybe £700 when we were expecting £200 is a shock.

Think am going to have to say something quietly to my parents at least.

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DoMeDon · 20/05/2011 21:24

Will they make a big deal if you have an open and honest conversation about FACT you can't afford it...really? They sound awful if that's the case!

TeamLemon · 20/05/2011 21:24

I think you need to be explicit. Just hoping that no-one will order 3 expensive courses is just asking for trouble.
Definitely speak to the staff. They can sort different tabs, even if it is table service.

PelvicFloorsOfSteel · 20/05/2011 21:24

From what you've described of your ILs I'm not sure I can picture them noticing the meal or type of wine you've bought and following suit. If you rely on this you are going to be stressed.

The bar might be on a different level but people can still get a bottle of wine/ a tray of beers one way or another.If they drink that much they'll need to go to the loo at some point, surely they could manage a trip to the bar at the same time?

squeakytoy · 20/05/2011 21:27

I would pay for the meal, and 3 bottles of wine. And then make everyone aware that extra drinks are to be bought separately.

Make sure they are aware before the meal though, not at the end.

TeamLemon · 20/05/2011 21:27

It's reading threads like this that make me so thankful for my family. We've arranged family dinners like this before and ended up having my dad & FIL racing each other to pay the bill!

lesley33 · 20/05/2011 21:27

I agree - talk to the venue and get them to advise you. You could have a cheap set menu - have the waiters bring it and have them say this is what is being provided but that if anyone wants to order off the menu they could pay the extra.

amistillsexy · 20/05/2011 21:27

Sorry, X-posted, but TBH I think it's a bit rich that neither you nor your dp can talk to your own siblings and parents and say you're too skint to pay for everyone!

Does anyone really expect to be paid for on a do like this these days? I certainly wouldn't!

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