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Zumba changed my wife

105 replies

ongakgak · 18/05/2011 18:22

This is a bumper sticker I saw today.

Pretty pathetic isn't it?

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PinkFondantFancy · 18/05/2011 21:27

Clearly his wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why should anyone else?? LIke zigzag said, maybe she even bought the sticker! penguin I agree that it is ridiculous when it gets to the stage that no-one will say anything at work just in case it could be construed by someone, somewhere, as offensive.

PinkFondantFancy · 18/05/2011 21:27

Grin mumcentreplus

ongakgak · 18/05/2011 21:27

penguin what makes me sad about your post is that the 2 women made the joke and were not reprimanded, but the man was. THat is gender disparity and unfairness in the workplace. There is no place for that kind of talk in the work place at all, male or female. Jokes about peoples appearance, sexuality, disability, gender, race or ethnicity should not be made in the work place it is totally inappropriate.

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penguin73 · 18/05/2011 21:31

When people are working long night shifts and sharing a break in a rest room, where everybody knows each well and and a general joke (along the lines of a man walks into bar) cannot be made then we live and work in a very, very sad society!! Not all work places are the same!

QueenLaQueefer · 18/05/2011 21:41

As I see it, the sticker implied that his wife maybe changed physically? As Zumba is wont to do?

I don't really think it's offensive.

I had one that said "Cornishmen get tin deeper", but it was on the car when I bought it.

squeakytoy · 18/05/2011 21:43

Jokes about peoples appearance, sexuality, disability, gender, race or ethnicity should not be made in the work place it is totally inappropriate

Perhaps best that nobody speak really.... Hmm

ongakgak · 18/05/2011 21:45

you could start sqeakytoy Grin

that surely is a basic human right, that jokes, poking fun, making fun at, laughing at someones perceived....whatever, it is just a poor show really

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AgentZigzag · 18/05/2011 21:46

I actually find your breathing quite offensive squeaky.

I'm afraid I'll have to report you to MNHQ if you don't tone it down a bit.

Lizzylou · 18/05/2011 21:47

Worst bumper sticker I ever saw said "Perfect family on board" and had stick people showing Mom, Dad, Boy and girl.

Oh and I am from the Midlands so can say MOM with impunity, before anyone takes deep offence at that one, PA Smile

squeakytoy · 18/05/2011 21:50

that surely is a basic human right, that jokes, poking fun, making fun at, laughing at someones perceived....whatever, it is just a poor show really

I spent most of my working life on construction sites. It is called banter.

We have gone so far down the politically correct path now that people are afraid to open their gobs and have a laugh just incase it offends someone somewhere.

It is possible to have light hearted banter and take the piss a little without going too far.

zukiecat · 18/05/2011 21:52

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AgentZigzag · 18/05/2011 21:57

I'm not happy with somebody saying all, as squeaky calls it, 'banter' should be seen as inappropriate just because some people don't know where the line that shouldn't be crossed is and become offensively sexist or racist.

ongakgak · 18/05/2011 22:01

Banter..hmm, have trouble with that.

Is it banter when my brother took a novel into his work place- a factory floor- and has been called "gay" about it, "all in fun mate" since? Is is banter when a slim but big busted colleague of mine at McDonalds got nick named "tits" by all the blokes. It was all done in fun, none of the personal stories I have put here were done maliciously, but they are surely totally unnecessary and definitely unwarranted, and caused distress, but because my friend and brother did not want to appear to have a sense of humour failure put up with it, and was hurt by it.

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ongakgak · 18/05/2011 22:03

The mcdonalds one was when i worked there as a teenager, and she was a teen too. Some of the blokes were in their mid twenties. So wrong.

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Lizzylou · 18/05/2011 22:03

Well Agent, I suppose it is all in your mindset.

I could have taken offence as I'd only produced sons, so obv hadn't delivered a "perfect family" OR I could have just sniggered, thought "what a twat" and thanked the gods up above that I had never been taken by the bumper sticker craze.

I did the latter. I have never seen another "perfect family" bumper sticker and I have never seen a Zumba one, a leetle perspective eh?

forwantofabetter1 · 18/05/2011 22:10

I would like to buy my OH the Zumba sticker because Zumba HAS changed this wife!! I used to hate going to the gym and now I love it, its totally toned my waist and legs in a way no excercise has done before which makes me feel happier about myself and ergo more inclined to "put out" !! Therefore beneficial all round

I too hate the way political correctness has driven us all to be over cautious in how and what we say. The teacher I work with is the only male in school (so sadly often the case in primary) and we have some great banter that if over heard I'm sure the PC Police would be getting their knickers in a twist over.

AgentZigzag · 18/05/2011 22:13

But the people who bullied your brother ongakgak were not engaging in banter, banter is me telling my friend she's a...well, I won't tell you what names we call each other because to you it'd be offensive, but because we're both in on it and can read the other person, it's not about positions of power or in/out groups.

Some of being offended is in the mind of the person hearing it, as lizzy says, but that in no way excuses bullying or discrimination which are altogether different.

I think it's a bit rich though for someone to try and stop a whole type of interaction between people using an imagined offence as an example.

ongakgak · 18/05/2011 22:15

I want to give Zumba a try after this pregnancy. I am getting a very droopy arse I think. forwantof I am pleased you have had such a great experience.

Well what you say in private with like minded individuals is quite different from voicing the same in public- ie the work place, on the street, mixing with unknowns.

I still dislike that bumper sticker.

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Portofino · 18/05/2011 22:16

I had some banter in my Belgian office this week. Did I have anything to add to the weekly round up.? Me -um no. What do you reckon to Peeepa though? Me- exuse me? Boss - yes, Pippa, we all like Pippa, some bits more than others, ha ha ha. You watched the wedding though ha ha ha. Me Angry

Lizzylou · 18/05/2011 22:17

Banter is lighthearted where all parties know that it is lighthearted ribbing.

Banter stops being banter when people feel victimised and targetted.

A bumper sticker is just that, some prat with a sticker, who'd put a bloody sticker proclaiming their serious standpoint on an issue on their car in any event?

squeakytoy · 18/05/2011 22:17

Is it banter when my brother took a novel into his work place- a factory floor- and has been called "gay" about it, "all in fun mate"

yes, it is banter in my opinion

when a slim but big busted colleague of mine at McDonalds got nick named "tits" by all the blokes

having been a very slim woman with ridiculously out of proportion boobs for most of my life, I am well used to comments... from men and women, shrugs ... never bothered me...

Maybe I just have a thicker skin...

I dont like "jokes" about disability/child abuse/rape as I think that does cross the line.. but I would hate to work in an environment that was so stifled people dare not have a laugh with each other.

Mumcentreplus · 18/05/2011 22:18

So are you saying I should not stroke the chests of the well toned young men at work??? Blush

ongakgak · 18/05/2011 22:18

zigzag the point is the people saying tits and gay thought they were engaging in banter. Because it was not challenged and on the surface laughed off, they thought it was all ok. Some individuals do not what to report abuse, do not what to create enemies, so put up with it. Why should they?

What imagined offense are you talking about?

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ongakgak · 18/05/2011 22:20

mumcentreplus I think that might be crossing a line...

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AgentZigzag · 18/05/2011 22:23

The imagined offence is the bumper sticker ongakgak.

So are you saying because of the type of bullying your brother had to endure, I shouldn't call my friend a ?