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Does every group need a hate figure so they can bond?

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Cortina · 17/05/2011 17:00

I've noticed in every group I am involved with through work or socially there is usually a person that people love to hate. Often others seem almost to bond through a shared dislike. One person may initially have a grievance but it seems that others will quickly jump on the bandwagon. Similarly there is often a person mutually revered. Often neither the figure of hate or worshipped person deserve this reaction or their reputation.

I read something that said society needs a hero and a villain and simply can't operate otherwise.

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AgentZigzag · 17/05/2011 17:08

I think I think you're right Grin

It's how I understand bullying in school on the whole to work.

It helps set up the 'us' and 'them' boundaries, insiders and outsiders.

But it's not necessarily bad to be an outsider because you can gain other skills.

SardineQueen · 17/05/2011 17:18

Certainly I think that some countries seem to have a shared identity which brings then together based on "us" and "them".

I don't think that's true of all countries though, and I don't think it's true of all groups of people, not by a long chalk.

lubberlich · 17/05/2011 17:20

And if the groups are together long enough those roles can change very easily.
I agree AgentZigzag - being outside of the clique can be a very satisfying place to be.

yukoncher · 17/05/2011 17:20

Definately think you're right!

ClipArt · 17/05/2011 17:23

It happens often but it's certainly not good or necessary. I find it very sad that there is bullying in so many places - it's lazy and cowardly. There are plenty of more positive, inclusive ways for people to bond, and good organisations will be actively seeking these.

Cortina · 17/05/2011 17:24

Agree Lubberlich and AgentZigzag, but IME upside can be wonderful freedom and the downside loneliness.

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Cortina · 17/05/2011 17:28

IME Clipart people can be surprisingly cowardly, and these include senior or high status individuals as much as anyone else. Or perhaps it isn't cowardice as such as wanting to avoid tension or maintain a genteel status quo in the 'group'?

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sonearsofar · 17/05/2011 17:33

very true

chocdrop · 17/05/2011 20:23

op, sadly I think you are right

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